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Posted Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:51 AM


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To be honest, I think accent and use therof will depend on two factors more than anything:

1 - Character's education. if you're playign a very well educated scholar/scribe/well tarvelled soldier, you have a good chance to be reasonably adept at other languages. Especially if you are a diplomat. Your accent could be slight, or your tones well modulated enough to speak to your opposite numbers in their own language without a foreign accent.

2 - Roleplay ability. I have had high horse rants on this before, so won't over do it here, but *yes* I am a trained actor. I spent three years at drama school, and my major was in vocal reproduction. It therefore makes me cringe at times when I am in LARP situations that are historical. I name no names, but half the people I talk to at maelstrom (for example) seem to feel that in order to give authentic speech for the period, they need to declaim like truly bad impresonations of Olivier reading Shakespeare. I know not everyone is good at acting, and don't hold it against them (which is why i never let it influence my dealings with them, even if it sets my teeth on edge). But most of the people (not all) probably aren't actually good enough to stick with accents or unusual speech patterns, especially in high stress situations. Now, I will probably feel the need (now and then when struggling for a word when talking to a foreigner IC) to perhaps throw in the occasional word that is accented or in an ancient language. But mostly I won't be doing so, as I really am not sure it could work with a large player base. I've read both ancient greek and middle egyptian at university for various reasons, and while my greek is VERY rusty, my egyptian is pretty good. Well, enough to be able to know the right word in egyptian for thw words i plan to stumble over. That should add the verisimilitude needed. I don't really like the idea of people who can't do accents trying to do so, especially if some of them don't really want to. For me, Larp is more about what you say, not necessarily how you say it.

I also appreciate that anyone who has ever met Nedjem from CUTT is currently pointing at me as a hypocrite. Ned's accent is MEANT to be that appauling, it's just another way he tries to annoy people. *8-P

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Posted Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:56 AM


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And I am just being cheeky now: have to point out, that Ancient Greek tragedy and so forth ... is in iambic hexameter, not pentameter - and Homer is in dactylic hexameter. *;-)

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Posted Wednesday, November 25, 2009 8:50 AM
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stoat (11/25/2009)
2 - Roleplay ability. I have had high horse rants on this before, so won't over do it here, but *yes* I am a trained actor. I spent three years at drama school, and my major was in vocal reproduction.

So? Even professionally trained actors can be dreadful hams, and roleplaying and acting are not the same thing at all. Acting (unless its *complete* improv) has scripts and directors and rehearsals. Roleplaying has none of those things.

Now I dont play Maelstrom, but last time I checked it was a *fantasy* system, not a historical one, so how can it have a period anyway?

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Posted Friday, November 27, 2009 4:07 PM
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stoat (11/25/2009)
To be honest, I think accent and use therof will depend on two factors more than anything:

1 - Character's education. if you're playign a very well educated scholar/scribe/well tarvelled soldier, you have a good chance to be reasonably adept at other languages. Especially if you are a diplomat. Your accent could be slight, or your tones well modulated enough to speak to your opposite numbers in their own language without a foreign accent.

2 - Roleplay ability. I have had high horse rants on this before, so won't over do it here, but *yes* I am a trained actor. I spent three years at drama school, and my major was in vocal reproduction. It therefore makes me cringe at times when I am in LARP situations that are historical. I name no names, but half the people I talk to at maelstrom (for example) seem to feel that in order to give authentic speech for the period, they need to declaim like truly bad impresonations of Olivier reading Shakespeare. I know not everyone is good at acting, and don't hold it against them (which is why i never let it influence my dealings with them, even if it sets my teeth on edge). But most of the people (not all) probably aren't actually good enough to stick with accents or unusual speech patterns, especially in high stress situations. Now, I will probably feel the need (now and then when struggling for a word when talking to a foreigner IC) to perhaps throw in the occasional word that is accented or in an ancient language. But mostly I won't be doing so, as I really am not sure it could work with a large player base. I've read both ancient greek and middle egyptian at university for various reasons, and while my greek is VERY rusty, my egyptian is pretty good. Well, enough to be able to know the right word in egyptian for thw words i plan to stumble over. That should add the verisimilitude needed. I don't really like the idea of people who can't do accents trying to do so, especially if some of them don't really want to. For me, Larp is more about what you say, not necessarily how you say it.

I also appreciate that anyone who has ever met Nedjem from CUTT is currently pointing at me as a hypocrite. Ned's accent is MEANT to be that appauling, it's just another way he tries to annoy people. *8-P

You're probably exactly the sort of person who complained about my 'awful fake english accent' when I attended a German LARP. Considering my often shaky German, and then the complete lack of LARP-specific vocab in my possession at the time, you can imagine how funny I found that. 

I just read your post using the voice of Montgomery Flange from series 3 of the Mighty Boosh. That could entertain me for at least a week. Please post more.

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Posted Friday, November 27, 2009 10:14 PM
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so what happens for those of us that can't do accents or those who attempt them and sound bad? or speak with an english accent? i am up for hearing accurate accents and the only way to learn them is to hear them and it should bring depth to the roleplay element.
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