|
|
|
Knight
 
Group: Basic Members
Last Login: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:04 AM
Posts: 50,
Visits: 66
|
|
|
|
|
|
Prodigal
Group: Basic Members
Last Login: Today @ 7:48 PM
Posts: 689,
Visits: 909
|
|
| Personally, I think he's talking out of his arse about LRP. Many LRPers also spend a fortune on authentic props and costume, and I've never seen anyone strop because their armour got dented. I've also seen LHers with very dodgy kit at displays, and displays whose grasp of history was limited (like the pre-Norman display I did talking about chivalric knighthood). So in summary, I think the author really needs to check his facts, and maybe try some higher quality LRP.
_____________________________________________________ It is not a competition. It is a web forum.
|
|
|
|
|
Overlord
Group: Administrators
Last Login: Today @ 10:28 PM
Posts: 1,380,
Visits: 3,359
|
|
| Nice to see a controversial article on Larpguide though. This kind of thing provokes some discussion. I take issue with the following bits. Richard Layton(8/8/2006)
When I first started thinking about writing this article I quickly realised I was in danger of annoying quite a few different people. So let me make it very clear right at the start that I do not intentionally write this in order to insult and annoy people. It is as un-biased and clinical as I can make it. So there!
Why say this if later on your work degenerates into a rant about the things you don't like about LRP? Richard Layton(8/8/2006)
One of my main annoyances about LRP is sometimes you wear a phys-rep of the armour instead of the armour itself.
Richard Layton(8/8/2006)
I mean LRP-ers really going berserk because they did not think the fight was fair or the rules were not adhered to properly. Re-enactors just shake hands and apologise if the blow was a bit hard. This does not mean that re-enactors are nicer, calmer people; it’s just that they have not got a well-crafted deeply personal alter ego at stake.
I guess its a bit like me trying to write a similiar article evaluation from the other perspective - ie as a LRPer with very little re-enactment or LH experience.
|
|
|
|
|
Knight
Group: Basic Members
Last Login: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:46 AM
Posts: 58,
Visits: 419
|
|
So,
This chap is writing an article now based on his opinions from 12 years ago? Damn, and I thought people who were quoting stuff 5 years out of date were bad... I do hope that he makes it to the gath though. It would be interesting to see him revisit the article afterwards and perhaps give an update.
|
|
|
|
|
Heroic Knight
Group: Basic Members
Last Login: Monday, June 23, 2008 3:16 PM
Posts: 149,
Visits: 1,096
|
|
I think he's pretty accurate when talking about larp.
He certainly doesn't make any universal claims; he says 'larpers can legitimately adopt lower standards' and 'I have seen a few larpers act like idiots' and 'I hope things have improved in last decade'.
While a lot of us pride ourselves on the quality of our kit, few of us will quibble if there were sewing-machines involved in its construction. And whereas he is proud of his authentic underwear, just remember the furore Dragonbane caused (on pagga) with its similar suggestion.
And combat. While we all know it's 'just a game', I've seen a lot of people say 'I couldn't easily roleplay fighting at less than my natural ability, not when there's a risk of my character dying'. On the other hand, safety consciousness seems to be ever increasing.
A lot of the things he enjoys about LH - like the pride in showing off new toys - are equally present in larp. But, like he says, larp covers a whole load of areas that LH doesn't begin to consider, as they are fundamentally different things.
When it comes to armour, he's certainly right that - regardless of construction, fantasy materials, etc - some designs will protect better than other designs (that may look better on screen / in White Dwarf). But the question of how armour and weapons interact is not a closed book; research is still in progress and the theoretical speculation is not always borne out. And I wonder why - when he says LHers don't really care about losing a fight - why he's so concerned about the fairness of wearing unencumbering armour.
(chris)
|
|
|
|
|
Wag
Group: System Moderators
Last Login: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:10 PM
Posts: 1,138,
Visits: 3,615
|
|
Being the one who commissioned this article originally, I take full responsibility  Originally there was supposed to be a counter article to oppose it but no one felt willing to write it. If anyone wants to do this now, feel free to submit it to LRP guide...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Whispering God is your friend... trust the Whispering God... Ruins of Empire 1st - 3rd Feb, 2008, Gladstone scout centre, Chester
|
|
|
|
|
Knight
Group: Basic Members
Last Login: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:04 AM
Posts: 50,
Visits: 66
|
|
| I would be quite happy to post a counter arguement to this article. Ive taken a few folks advice and decided not to involve myself too heavily in discussions about the articles on larpguide, since I'm the one that posts them up there in the first place, I'll only find myself forever in defence of them. If it brings on a good debate, then its done a good job as far as I'm concerned.
One comment only though, the current articles going up are a backlog of articles originally meant for the paggazine, kindly donated by the original authors of the articles and the paggazine organisers, so some articles may be slightly out of date. But I do think the ones ive put up still have something to say.
---------------------------
http://www.larpguide.co.uk
---------------------------
|
|
|
|
|
Prodigal
Group: Basic Members
Last Login: Today @ 10:38 PM
Posts: 885,
Visits: 1,285
|
|
| lot's of point to comment on but, mostly Phys rep armour- this debates been going on for years , personally I know that if I wore Plate every day on a professional basis (i.e a 15th Century soldier) the weight wouldn't bother me, therefore wearing a light weight version is perfectly legit'. Combat: most reenactors (and I've been doing it off on for 20 years) don't fight for hits- especially in displays- they hit each others weapons, whereas in LRP we hit each other. I've never been hit in the throat with a steel bastard sword wielded by some loony who's forgotten it isn't real, at an LRP event- I did at Bosworth some years ago- thank god for mail standards. Accuracy: while many LH enthusiasts have awesome kit, most reenactors only have clothing, weapons and armour- and many groups have standards that LRPers would laugh at. They don't camp in period and only get kitted up to do a display- just like in LRP where some of us go to extreme lengths to feel "real" while others don't feel the need to go that far. Come to a good event Richard- not one of the big fests, where standards vary wildly, but one of the smaller ones with high standards, check out some websites and then revisit your article when you know something about the subject.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| | |