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I hear all sorts of rumours about the cataclysm having OC consequences but can't find anything official.
Is there some OC player choice going on here or is it entirely IC?
If it is determining an OC change, then how are these changes determined by player actions IC???One of the things I dislike about the LT system is that you get too many points to create characters (magic? spirit? combat? armour? - I'll take them all thanks and then try to find something for my spare points too). Is there a chance to change this through the 'Cataclysm'? {before this gets misread or misinterpreted - which I'm sure never happens on Rule7 - can i just point out i'm asking about OC game system changes and not looking for IC plot info!}
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| AFAIK the cardres thing is pretty much being handled I.C, rules verson 3 is being started after the gathering I hear and will be slowly implement over about 3 years, the paticular sets of rules they use will depend on which of the cardres wins the cataclsym. I doubt character points will be reduced, whichever cardre was to win, but if you had enough people backing it then maybe.
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There is an "LT" forum, you know... this might be better placed there to a get a full response.
There are two OC aspects to the forthcoming Cateclysm: rules version 3 and the, well, lets call it "world flavour". Rules 3 is Rules 3... nothing can or will affect what that is going to be once it gets rolled out. That change is decided and (as I understand it) is going to be introduced wholesale and playtested... rather than in dribs, drabs and full of holes like Rules 2 was. This is entirely OC.
What the cadre/cataclysm/whatever plot will have an effect on is what I've called World Flavour and this is made up of such degrees as how effective rituals are and what type of effects are you likely to get out of them (are you going to get single, major snackies or minor perks for many people). Likewise the availability rate of ritual slots and the effectiveness of item creation osps is potentially a factor. These may be OOC things, but they are also kind of IC as well.
There are opinions on what each side represents, but those are all IC and it wont be me who breaches that one. *shuts gob on who he expects it to be*
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Ventricumbent (8/2/2006)
I hear all sorts of rumours about the cataclysm having OC consequences but can't find anything official.Yes, LT haven't been very good at telling people what is going on IMO.Based on my relatively reliable rumours, I believe there will only be 'IC consequences' from IC actions around the Cadres (power of rituals, amount of magical items, relative power of things). The 'OC changes' (character points, OSP skills, new spells etc), coming via the new Rules 3, are independent of IC actions (rules 3 having been developed well before the results of the Cadre plot can be known). I put two terms above in quotes because as I see it, there is a large overlap between IC and OC changes and how everything will actually fall out is really anyone's guess. Ventricumbent (8/2/2006)
One of the things I dislike about the LT system is that you get too many points to create characters (magic? spirit? combat? armour? - I'll take them all thanks and then try to find something for my spare points too).Really? The usually complaint is the opposite. Some of the skill costs were dropped recently (most significantly Ritual Magic) because of it. You can certainly go for a competent jack-of-all-trades style character but if you want to specialise in an area, it will generally take up most of your points.(Congratulations - you get my first post on these boards  )
They're not rules as such, more guidelines.
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| THe cataclysm and rules changes are 2 different things that are happening at the same time. The cataclysm and the cadre choice that the players have IC will affect the power balance of the system, nothing to do with the rule book. The cadre changes could easily be made using the current rulebook. At the same time the LT are updating/rewriting their rules and how those rules are written will have nothing to do with what cadre wins (It's hard enough writing one rule book, never mind 4 rule books just so the other 3 can be discarded). As withany major change in rules, things may well work differentlyin game, so the ctaclysm (or the period after it) is seen as a good time to bring in the new rules as any percieved IC differences can then be explained away as "Well, we did just have a world changin cataclysm" There is no player choice in the new rules, but the rules are being written (and in some case rewritten again or even dumped completeley) based on player feedback gained from the questionairre and playtests with players. STU
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Ventricumbent (8/2/2006)
One of the things I dislike about the LT system is that you get too many points to create characters (magic? spirit? combat? armour? - I'll take them all thanks and then try to find something for my spare points too). Is there a chance to change this through the 'Cataclysm'? {before this gets misread or misinterpreted - which I'm sure never happens on Rule7 - can i just point out i'm asking about OC game system changes and not looking for IC plot info!} I'm not sure if it's what you are getting at here, but one thing I would love to see out of the new rules is for it to champion the specialist as opposed to the multi classer. The current rules it is more favourable to spread your points across disciplines than to concentrate them all into one. Stu
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Omega: Stuart Maher in a rat mask
BUTT: Stuart Maher in various crap costumes
EOS: Stuart Maher writing plot EOS - Book now, thank me later. I was going to copyright my posts... but then remembered this is an LRP forum!
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StuartMaher (8/2/2006)I'm not sure if it's what you are getting at here, but one thing I would love to see out of the new rules is for it to champion the specialist as opposed to the multi classer. Yep - just what I was getting at. In fact, it seems you have so many points you have to multiclass to some degree (full plate + body dev + sword&shield = still points to spend. spell1 + spell2 + spell1again = still more points to spend...) Alas, it seems too late to get started on all the ways the system could easily be improved...
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Man in Blue (8/2/2006)
There is an "LT" forum, you know... this might be better placed there to a get a full response.This'll be the LT website that has "Merry Christmas 2004" in its latest news? I did post there. Even got a respponse (from a moderator!): "There was an OOC questionnaire last year. IC activities are ongoing. Your best bet is to talk to your Faction leaders or to Existence." !
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