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Heroic Knight
 
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| Sarah - the difference between dropping OOC and having an inferior or non-existent phys rep is enormous. Trying to have an OOC converstaion with me is far harder for me to ignore than your can of coke. It also has far more of an effect on those around us. If a game specifically states no ooc drinking etc, then everyone who attends should abide by that. But an awful lot of events either don't say that - or don't make it explicit. If you're a new player who doesn't know the system (and usually does LT for example, which has burger vans and the like), how can they be expected to know that things are different at the new system...? Interaction is the part of LRP I hold as most important. Not costume, not physreps - both of those are secondary issues that enhance the flavour of the event, but are essentially there to help immersion. It's similar to a play, the script is the key - props, costume and set simply enhance things...
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Tart (7/28/2006)
My main point isn't "you are all LRP nazi's" (well you are - get over it!  ) but more "you accept an awful lot that isn't 'authentic' to a greater or lesser degree, so why pick on something as immaterial as this?" Because my immersion in an IC world isn't usually a delicate thing which is shattered completely by the sight of one thing that isn't totally authentic. However, it is something which can get worn down by repeatedly seeing things that blatantly don't fit the setting. Modern fabrics don't count; unless you play in very strictly historical settings (which I currently don't), then as long as they look vaguely old-fashioned they're unlikely to be out of place. This means that I appreciate it when people voluntarily make a little bit of extra effort to hide or remove things that don't fit the setting. I think those players deserve respect.
WARNING: the information above may have been subjected to dangerously high levels of ignorance.
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Tart (7/28/2006)
"you accept an awful lot that isn't 'authentic' to a greater or lesser degree, so why pick on something as immaterial as this?"Well I believe the problems lie in that the naughty things like talking OOC, drinking from OOC vessels, smoking manufactured cigarettes with filters (Oo thats a new one to add to the pot) - are all easily avoided, it wouldn't cost very much financially or time wise. So to not do them is perceived as being lazy and not caring about the game. Completly cladding a scout hut in wattle and daub, re-organising the flight paths of passing planes, clothing everyone in home spun wool clothing made from rare breed goats are all difficult and financially not possible. However bunging a drink in a tankard is easy and cheap.
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Tart (7/28/2006)
So your entire argument boils down to:
Nope, it boils down to - make at least an appropriate amount of effort for the event you are attending regardless of what you personally think is an acceptable level.
There's also a second part that we should push for higher standards and try to raise the bar, and support event organisers who do this.
I was trying to give you an idea of what I view as relatively effortless - in connection with saying that I'm more irritated by elements of OOC reality creeping in where this could be prevented with little effort. I can't consciously alter what things irritate me in a particular LRP setting, but I don't expect my irritation levels to rule what other players do.
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But who polices this? If the organisers haven't set minimum standards then whose to decide what are the minimum standards? When does it all stop?
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it boils down to - make at least an appropriate amount of effort for the event you are attending regardless of what you personally think is an acceptable level.
There's also a second part that we should push for higher standards and try to raise the bar, and support event organisers who do this.
I was trying to give you an idea of what I view as relatively effortless - in connection with saying that I'm more irritated by elements of OOC reality creeping in where this could be prevented with little effort. I can't consciously alter what things irritate me in a particular LRP setting, but I don't expect my irritation levels to rule what other players do.
But who defines what is approriate? as i've said before many times - this is all subjective. While you think learning to fight with real weapons is too much hassle, or sourcing period boots, others may not.
and why push the bar? why is more "realism" better?
and if you can't control what irritates you, I find that very very sad.
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Because my immersion in an IC world isn't usuallya delicate thing which is shattered completely by the sight of one thing that isn't totally authentic. However, it is something which can get worn down by repeatedly seeing things that blatantly don't fit the setting. Modern fabrics don't count; unless you play in very strictly historical settings (which I currently don't), then as long as they look vaguely old-fashioned they're unlikely tobe out of place.
*sigh* so things that "Pass" while not authentic are ok? and things that blatantly don't fit aren't.
Please see my list of everything you get at a standard LRP game that blatantly don't fit that you put up with...
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'More realism' is not as important in my book as 'less realworldism'.
So drinking out of a tankard, a goblet, a horn, or a lady's slipper are all fine (but may raise some IC eyebrows) while drinking out of a can or a bottle with RW branding all over it is not so fine (and wouldn't draw IC comment).
But half the time, drinking happens late at night round a campfire when it's hard to see any labels on anything. In that context it doesn't really matter what you're drinking out of - so long as it gets binned before the sun comes up.
(chris)
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