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| I believe Tart is inferring that it could be annoying at an event if you have reached the bar/kit standard and the organisers have not mentioned that using tinnies as 'flagons of ale' is not acceptable and then another player comes up to you and complains about you drinking from a can. In the dim and distant past I have been to clubs with very low standards and yes they have been fun. They would of been greatly improved by a few easy changes that don't cost anything such as staying IC, hiding beer cans and bottles. But I didn't complain because the organisers had set the level of kit standard. All I could do is lead by example and hope others follow. So yes I can see how it could be annoying if another player does critisize on a game where the majority of players have settled into a not too serious game.
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You see I disagree on that. I think LRP weapons look like exactly that - latex weapons. Different size, different look, different feel to real weapons. Not to mention used very differently most of the time.
Same for ringmail vs real chain.
Or army boots vs real medievel shoes. and so on.
I think it all depends on your knowledge of things, and what you find acceptable.
Their seems to be alot of snobbery involved in the whole thing if you ask me.
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As for safety - re-enactors and metal sword martial artists seem to use them ok.
They don't drink alcohol then end up in fights.
They have training.
They are in safer conditions (sports facilities, field without tents or non-combatants in the way in daylight)
I thought I'd been reasonably clear in explaining that my irritation is about things that are blatantly OOC which could be easily replaced with something less blatantly OOC.
So, modern fabric - normally looks like what's it's supposed to represent.
Modern clothing - sometimes looks like what it's supposed to represent, sometimes doesn't, depends on the individual article of clothing
Modern tents - difficult to replace, sometimes look like what they're supposed to represent (army tents and whatever), often kept in OOC areas anyway
Glasses - can't be replaced to safety reasons, same for asthmatics' inhalers, diabetics' insulin, any other medical items/supplies
Haircuts - difficult to replace. "Modern" isn't really the thing that's a consideration anyway - "fitting to the setting" is the important thing rather than "historically accurate". I'm happy for a fantasy setting to involve whatever haircuts people have - but the fantasy setting including a Coca-Cola corporation is a bit jarring to immersion
Modern buildings - difficult to replace
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Is that any clearer yet?
as i've said "effort" is entirley subjective.
OK I'll cheerfully define effort as "will it cost less than £20 (for all costume and props) and take less than 2 hours (for all preparation etc)". That's pretty damn effort-free really, isn't it?
also, do you not realise this works both ways?
Yes. I can't help it if other people are wrong 
I'm sure that there are lots of people that think your attempts to raise the bar and stopping them enjoying the event as they want it annoys the hell out of them!
I never have a go at people at an event. Ever. I'm too busy roleplaying. What annoys me is when event organisers want to raise the bar and are met by a barrage of whinging in response.
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phys-rep = physical representation.
Really? Is that what it means?? (/sarcasm).
Your latex weapon is a phys-rep for a REAL sword.
my lager can is a phys-rep of a real flagon of ale.
As Sarah says, my latex weapon looks roughly like the sword. Your lager can looks nothing like a flagon of ale.
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So your entire argument boils down to:
I can be bothered to make x amount of effort, so x amount of effort is the same amount of effort everyone else should make?
I don't think I need to point out the problem with this...
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| Here's a question for you Tart (not a personal thing, its just you are the most vocal on your side of the discussion, anyone on the 'it doesnt matter' side feel free to respond); If you decided to go to an event that makes it clear in advance that it expects; - authentic and appropriate looking costume (note emphasis on looking) - staying IC at all times in IC areas - all drinks to be transferred to IC drinking vessels Would you follow that expectation, or would you ignore it and drink from the can?
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| Having looked at Tart's list I just feel I should point out that ringmail and square-section chain are perfectly acceptable as they are historically accurate and therefore will exist in most fantasy settings. If you want to be anal about chainmail start on those who don't have D-section part-welded part-riveted mail with makers rings.
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In those circumstances, yeh, I would make effort to drink from a tankard (I tend to BTW - I am partly playing devils advocate here!) or other IC drinking vessel.
As I said earlier (at least, I think I did) if you are "Playing a game" and the rules of the game state "IC drinking only" then you should try to adhere to that.
I think there are execption to this obviously - it being 4am and no-one else being about, and anyone who is is mostly OOC and so forth.
My main point isn't "you are all LRP nazi's" (well you are - get over it! )
but more "you accept an awful lot that isn't 'authentic' to a greater or lesser degree, so why pick on something as immaterial as this?"
I personally think there are much much worse things to spoil the fun than drinking a can of coke!
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Tart (7/28/2006)
I personally think there are much much worse things to spoil the fun than drinking a can of coke!Like a certain Shards player who shall remain nameless (partly because I don't know if he reads these boards) trying to talk to me about Stargate SG-1 during time in when there were other players about.
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