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Posted Monday, July 24, 2006 5:06 PM


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Hello all,

I've just acquired a Cap firing Musket for LARP use. What are the regulations in terms of transporting it too and from events? I HAVE to use public transport to get there and back and I don't fancy being arrested

It's a replica and totally incapable of firing at all but doesn't have a red bung on the end or anything like that so LOOKS quite real

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Posted Monday, July 24, 2006 5:17 PM


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Ideally it needs to be in a case or wrapped up well, and try and avoid carrying it in public. Mine only pistols mind you, are always boxed and kept out of sight.

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Posted Monday, July 24, 2006 7:56 PM


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It`s a problem we have come across a lot in the Lazertag end of Lrp. Basically keep it out of site, well wrapped or boxed. Or if you can get one to fit a proper zip up gun bag.

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Posted Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:32 PM
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Mecha Gouda (7/24/2006)
Hello all,

It's a replica and totally incapable of firing at all but doesn't have a red bung on the end or anything like that so LOOKS quite real

Cheers M'Dears

If it cannot fire a live round then there's no legal requirement to treat it in any other way than a toy gun. However its always sensible to transport it covered in a rifle bag, case or wrapped.

I have never had any problems with this and blank firing Mk2 Sten guns can cause a stir.

If you're in any doubt then I'd suggest that you drop an email to a ren group like the American Civil War Society. Their mainstay weapons are percussion cap firing and I'm sure they'd give you a sensible answer.

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Posted Thursday, July 27, 2006 5:53 PM
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Paul Bavill (7/27/2006)


If it cannot fire a live round then there's no legal requirement to treat it in any other way than a toy gun. However its always sensible to transport it covered in a rifle bag, case or wrapped.



With the law as it currently stands this isn't actually true. If anyone sees you with even a toy gun and calls the police you have committed an offence (can't remeber it's name, but it's something along the lines of public nuisance with an imitation firearm) - this is in the old VCR bill, not the new one, so is already on the books.

When transporting/carrying any fake/toy/imitation firearm in public you just need to make sure it's covered up. If you're travelling on public transport the cheap and easy way is to make a box for it out of old boxes. that way it's covered up, and reltaively secure to strap to your bags, or slip a handle on the box and you can just carry it like a bag itself.

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Posted Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:08 PM
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Please bear in mind that police cannot tell the difference between a toy gun a replica gun and a real gun, for that matter a man was shot dead in a street by police officers who thought the table leg he was taking for repair was a shotgun.

All weapons should be kept hidden well out of sight, ideally they should be carried in something that disguises their shape and does not make a member of the public think gun

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Posted Monday, July 31, 2006 12:29 AM
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It is currently a statutory offence to carry an imitation firearm in a public place. Doesn't matter whether it's able to fire a round or not, it's still an offence. You absolutely must get a case for it, preferably a hard rectangular case that hides the shape. Wrapping it up in a bin-liner is just about the worst thing you can do as it emphasises the gun shape while obscuring the non-realistic features.

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Posted Monday, July 31, 2006 10:32 AM
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Are you taking your kit down too? I had a similar issue with Sinergy, when I went on the train. I wrapped the gun well and buried it under my kit at the bottom of my bag. Not only is it well hidden, it is damn near impossible to get to in a hurry and won't cause embarrassment should the bag accidentally fall open, all the public will see is socks...

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Posted Monday, July 31, 2006 6:58 PM
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you could always stick it in a box or an instrument case.

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