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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:50 PM
Heroic Knight

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Bad example! The first article there is about Libya sponsoring the IRA, most happen to mention people called Ira, there's one about the International Reading Association and one discussing a pamphlet produced by the IRA's opposition, nothing at all about any alleged USA funding of the IRA... (edit: well not on the first page anyway, didn't check past there)
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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 2:56 PM
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KatieRennie (7/19/2006)
Bad example!


There are degrees of be-botherment. I heard "blah". I typed "blah" into Google, but didn't click on any of the links.
If you're going to post a link, you should at least have glanced at it long enough to know whether it's actually about what you think it's about.
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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:06 PM


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Look into the 32 counties soverignity movement It's a front for the real IRA, banned from fundraising in the US.

Sein fein regularly held fundraisers in the US, ergo the IRA did.

Also look into a charity called Noraid, they regularly held fundraising dinners featuring such delightful folks as the kennedys.

It might be worth exploring the US state departments list of banned or terrorist organisations.

American funding paid for the vast majority of terrorist offenses through the history of the troubles. The Omaha bombing was rather soundly toasted in certain circles for the wake up call it provided to Irish American groups.

PD Olrich Von Skorzezny.  Havocstan

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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:11 PM
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Indeed, those are all words. Is there any evidence to back it up?
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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:20 PM


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There are degrees of be-botherment. I heard "blah". I typed "blah" into Google, but didn't click on any of the links.
If you're going to post a link, you should at least have glanced at it long enough to know whether it's actually about what you think it's about


Which is preciesely why i posted to a google search, rather than a specific site - as i'm not that bothered. I just hate threads that turn into "well where's your evidence?" "you post a link then" "no, YOU post a link" and so on.
There are sites out there, just look for them.

oh and BTW, the berkley lecture mentions the US sponsoring the IRA...

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see these:
America and the IRA:
http://web.mit.edu/SSP/seminars/wed_archives_04fall/byman.htm


BBC article about the same:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm




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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:41 PM


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Those are words suggesting you do your own research, fucking hell Marios google is available with internet access after all. I even gave you the topics you would get the most relevant info on.

Would you prefer it delivered to your door complete with topsecret stamped on the folders?

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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:49 PM
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Those are words suggesting you do your own research, fucking hell Marios google is available with internet access after all. I even gave you the topics you would get the most relevant info on.


Interesting. In which case, I suggest you research the counterpoint to all those arguments.

Would you prefer it delivered to your door complete with topsecret stamped on the folders?


If you have a point to make, it's sort of assumed that you have access to some evidence that convinced you - telling other people to go and find the evidence to back up your point isn't terribly convincing. Nor is it particularly useful (I can learn more just reading the BBC).
Marios
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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:59 PM


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Marios,

Bad Moon Rising has given several interesting points none of which you can be arsed to look at for yourself. None of us are here to do your research for you. Even were we to provide a link you would happily point out that the source was bias or plain wrong as you did not agree with it. You proved as much with your dismissal of sources such as the WHO for the Chernobyl incident in previous discussions elsewhere.

People are blatantly aware that you have absolutely no interest in anything that does not support the line you have randomly chosen to side with, which is why we can't be bothered to engage with you. Asking people for links is acceptable.... when the person asking is someone who generally relies on his own misrepresentations of Wikipedia as his source of knowledge its both hypocritical and laughable. As already stated this thread is not about the IRA, but well done for derailing yet another thread in your own inimitable style. I sure you are very proud of your work here.

As you are well aware donations to political parties are anonymous both here and in America, so subjective proof is quite difficult to achieve especially since after 9/11 people have been strangely less vocal about it, and removed proud admissions from their websites.

What is a fact is that America had a very cosy arrangment withn Sinn Fein until someone mentioned to George W that they were linked to the IRA and then suddenly they were not invited to dinner... there was a bit of a fuss if you actually watched the news. Now if you are honestly suggesting that the Whitehouse was not previously aware of the association between Sinn Fein and the IRA you really are stretching the bounds of credulity. If you care to apply a little thought to this you will easily see the connections. Have a look, go on... Coca Cola made a donation, for instance... its reasonably well documented, now apply that brain you are so proud of and think about who runs Coca Cola and their Political sway in American and World Politics. Its not a difficult leap. I do not have the time or the inclination to update you on the entire world of politics.

None of which is relevant in the slightests to this thread so kindly go start a different one to troll on. Again I am sure you will utterly overlook this suggestion as you did so before.

I really mean it. Read what people write, make some effort on your part and if you really want to have this discussion start another f*cking thread.

Infact if there is a Mod reading this can you kindly take out all this irrelevant IRA bollocks and move it elsewhere so that Marios can continue with his School boy debating techniques and this thread can return to what it was originally discussing.

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Posted Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:01 PM


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