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| I'm looking to latex some stuff. In this particular case, it's shield rims, made from soft pipe lagging. I want to bond the lagging to the face of the shield, so I thought that it'd be a good idea to gaffer tape over the lagging (to secure it, and make it flush with the shield face) and then latex over that. I've done this once before, but the latex peeled off after a little while - it wasn't terribly durable. How do I make the latex tougher? More layers? Isoflex over the top? The shield face is cloth over 6mm foam, for what it's worth.
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| I would seriously advise against pipe lagging... it's not dense enough, it tears easily and it's generally unsafe. As for getting it to stick, you could start off with a layer of spray glue before the latex, put on about 8 layers of latex and isoflex over the top.
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| I'm assuming its a ply shield. Pipe lagging isn't uncommon and as long as you dont use the shield as a weapon its not really a safety issue, but plastazote is a better option. I'd personally advise getting a big thick sheet of foam and having a coreless shield (doesn't have to be high grade - I know somebody who made one out of an old knackered swimming float). The gaffa is likely to affect the latex's staying potential. Either do a layer of evostik over the gaffa or preferably just use the evostick to attatch the foam to the shield. You want 7-10 layers of latex and isoflex on top of that ideally
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| Yerp I wouldn't use pipe lagging, but you've probably got it and it was the latex not sticking and peeling you were wondering about. Have a close look at the pipe lagging it most likely has a very smooth surface. Give it a light sand to break open some of the bubbles that forms it. The latex and or glue will have something to grab onto then. You could isoflex it or use Plasti Dip Clear like I do. Best option might be to cover the rim with material or leather as well instead of latex?
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Oh didn't notice the gaffer in the mix. Dont bother with it. Latex wont adhere to gaffer.
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Shven (4/21/2008) I'm assuming its a ply shield. Pipe lagging isn't uncommon and as long as you dont use the shield as a weapon its not really a safety issue, but plastazote is a better option. I'd personally advise getting a big thick sheet of foam and having a coreless shield (doesn't have to be high grade - I know somebody who made one out of an old knackered swimming float).I don't even know what plastazote is. The gaffa is likely to affect the latex's staying potential. Either do a layer of evostik over the gaffa or preferably just use the evostick to attatch the foam to the shield. You want 7-10 layers of latex and isoflex on top of that ideally Won't evostick make the foam/lagging go hard if it gets on it?
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| plastazote is closed cell foam, if you want take a look at my little buckler at EoS i made it myself very easily. My usrgestion forget the gaffer tape and use solvent based evostick to bind the lagging ot the plywood, do your payer of latex (or 3) then use Isoflex (from B&Q usally outdoor near the sheds) its not nice stuff but its what all weapons and foam sheilds are varnished in, flexable but durable it will stop the wear on the latex.
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Pipe lagging is designed as insulation to go around pipes, and is lighter weight and much less durable than the foam weapons are usually made out of, which is usually black plastazone. One good source for such is Skian Mhor, who sell it by mail order.
Pipe lagging around a shield works, but most prefer coreless shields, because they are much lighter, and last longer.
That said, assuming you already have one, two suggestions: Firstly, sanding works quite well. Secondly, cloth tape is a bit like gaffa, but will take latex properly - try hardware stores for it.
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