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Posted Friday, March 28, 2008 3:55 PM
Champion

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Shven (3/27/2008)
Hence my desire to live in a field in a house I've built myself. No mortgage, no full time job, providing as much as I feasibly can for myself. Call that option number 3.


Of course you'd best hope you never become unable to care for yourself- as they'll take your property to pay for your care!!


Unless your lucky enough to live in scotland where is paid for by the rest of the unites kingdom, dont begrudge them, as I'm hoping to move up there shortly until I finish uni and then go live in either germany or new zealand, where not only will I have rights as a straight white working man, but I can look forward to a decent quality of life

Also when I go abroad I'll make a note to make a fraudulent claim for tax credits, knowing full well they wont ask me for the money back when I emmigrate, where as now when I make an honest claim, update mydetails, they say they've over paid me, they reject my appeal, and after a year later i agree to pay them they send me a gay threatening letter

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Posted Friday, March 28, 2008 11:00 PM


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I agree our benfits system sucks. It was set up mainly in the 1940's when no one could envisage how much our population would expand, links to the EU and medical advancement increasing life expectancy.

Past goverments have all had differing levels of success with the welfare system and it all comes down to politics. ALL labour prime ministers have been fabian socialists and this is reflected in their policy of wealth re distibution and big onus on eduction, which in theory is a good thing at least when compared to conservative rule.

Unfortunatly there are people who fall just inside the bandings and like Shven are working for very little, after deductions. Take advantage of the tax credits!!!!! I agree its ultimate tedium filling out the same info again and again but if it gets you a little extra......

For anyone who is unsure what they can claim etc there is always CAB who do the full benefits checks and inform of any freebies available IE severn trent water offer a slush fund for people on low income that gives them free water billing for a year and can also help with other debt.

 

Give me what I want and maybe no one gets hurt

 

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Posted Saturday, March 29, 2008 2:11 PM


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Shven just go and live on a ring road somewhere like this guy:
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No need to live out in the wilds somewhere......

Me I'm gonna buy a boat and travel the world.......just as soon as I learn to sail, oh and the kids grow up.

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Posted Monday, March 31, 2008 12:13 PM


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AnthonyK (3/28/2008)
I think alot of people don't understand or dont want to understand this, if you take from teh country if you sue your council because you triped on a paving slap your taking from everybody you know and meet.

Whilst my views on the "sue first" society are well known I do feel your argument here is akin to.

"Claiming on insurance drives up the premiums for everyone which is a reason not to claim"

The council tax me to pay for the money they have to fork out in such circumstances. The council are responsible for maintaining the public footpath. If I am damaged through no fault of my own due to the councils negligence then I will demand money from them. I paid them to do a job which they failed to do. Tough.

On the other hand claiming for any accident at all especially where it was clearly your fault should not be encouraged.

(in an example

I differentiate between a claim made by a cyclist who gets chucked over the handlebars because a shoddy road repair left a four inch high pile of black tarmac in a random spot in the road, which the cyclist had no chance of seeing and a claim made by a cyclist who cycles into a clearly marked pothole.

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Posted Monday, March 31, 2008 7:02 PM
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yes i wouldn't say if it was actual neglagence and you were injured in a way that will cause you to have continuing problems or cause costs (not phrased this elquiently) not to claim. but if you triped over a lsighly raised pavign slab and gra\ed your knee if say look where your puting your feet.

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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:11 PM


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The tax credits will actually make no difference, as I will stop work in June/July in order to travel/volunteer and then go to uni. So I can have the couple of hundred max either now if I fill in the paperwork, or as a tax rebate when the Inland Revenue calculate that I've earnt less than my designated tax free allowance for 2008/9. And for all the difference it will make I'd rather not fill in the paperwork and tarnish my soul by interacting with the horrible faff that is the DWP.

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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:46 PM
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That's your choice.

But it does make it harder for me to sympathise with you if you won't take advantage of what credits you *can* have.  A couple of hundred quid, for a few hours of hassle - that's good money!  Okay, you'll get it anyway as a rebate - but better to have it now when you need it or just in case...it's a good protection versus your student loan/grant coming through late etc.

If you've got cash problems - why volunteer or travel?  Your choice (obviously), but if it's that bad, why not earn while you can?  Admittedly, I never got the travel bug, and my charity work tends to be limited to an overnight stay or two at a shelter per year...but I genuinely don't understand.

Not criticising - just interested.

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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:32 PM


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Shven (4/1/2008)
a tax rebate when the Inland Revenue calculate that I've earnt less than my designated tax free allowance for 2008/9.

I love your optimism.  My experience is that you have to fight tooth and nail to get rebates.

Better to apply now and have it before you go travelling, no?

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Posted Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:42 PM