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Heroic Knight
 
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| Any diagrams or techniques for sword fighting from the romans up? You know the basics!
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Heroic Knight
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| i mean sword fighting from the roman periods and onwards
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| The oldest sword fighting treatsie is call I33, a 13th century german manuscript showing the techniques of the sword and buckler. There is nothing that has been discoverd to date that preecedes that. After that come the 14th century manuscripts of Johannes Leichtenaur (german) and Fiore dei Liberi (italian) - both based around the longsword, from the 15th century on they start becoming a lot more common. The only refernces to roman swordplay are found in some renaissance texts which reference them, but they are text only and not very indepth. The originals were lost a long time ago.
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Heroic Knight
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| i think you missed my point i am after some pictures and infor on sword techniques
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| If your after modern interpretations of the old styles theres a fair bit out there on the web for free, the you tube western martial arts group is a good place to start, for the old manuiscripts for you to interpret yourself www.the-exiles.org.uk/fioreproject/default.asp is a good place to start. For full guides to the basics chivalry bookshelf do a very good range of works by current instructors. http://www.suspensionofdisbelief.co.uk/shop/hema-books/ Or if your interested in studying then there are now schools of swordsmanship in or near most major cities, ourselves near Birmingham, Boars Tooth in Croydon & Folkston, Schola Gladiatoria and The Exiles in London, in fact check here its easier than writing a full list http://www.bfhs.org/groups/
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JimSeph (11/18/2007)
Or if your interested in studying then there are now schools of swordsmanship in or nearmost major cities
Yep... If you're looking at learning and applying these techniques I strongly advise finding a class near you unless you have a really solid background in armed martial arts.
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| For basic info on the weapons: The Archaeology of Weapons, Arms and Armour from Prehistory to the Age of Chivalry - R. Ewart Oakeshott For anything instructional, you might try J. Clements` Medieval Swordmanship. It trails of into sleight of iron in the last bit, but it starts out with the basics well enough.
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| Holy Mother of God! You're asking as if it could all be fitted into one book! Perhaps you should consider narrowing your sword-fighting to a particular period. Although I'm fascinated by Sword and Buckler (I.33), perhaps you would be better with 15th century sword-fighting - Leichtenauer or Fiore? Also, you need to consider whether you're focus is eastern or western sword-fighting. Whilst there are only so many ways of breaking a human body / snapping the joints and bones / places to stab at / chop at... there are many different genre which have their own identity and ethos or mythologies. Not only that, but sword-fighting is one just up from wrestling, dagger fighting, and armoured vs unarmoured combat - all are separate arts, but all need to be combined to be an efficient killer / swordsman. There are plenty of interpretations out there in book form, and you are coming into a period of increased interest in western martial arts: - The Swordsman's Companion: A Modern Training Manual for the Medieval Longsword (Paperback) by Guy Winsor
- Sigmund Ringeck's Knightly Arts of Combat: Sword and Buckler Fighting, Wrestling, and Fighting in Armor (Paperback) by Peter Svard (Illustrator), David Lindholm (Translator)
- Medieval Swordsmanship: Illustrated Methods and Techniques (Paperback) by John Clements (Author)
- Sword Fighting: A Manual for Actors and Directors (Paperback) by Keith Ducklin (Author), John Waller (Author) (s'ppose I'd better plug my guild master, John Waller)
Or - if you feel better going back to the source, there are some very good online resources to be found here: http://www.thearma.org/manuals.htm The point is, th | | | |