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Champion
 
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I think we're seing some difference betewwn "using a bit of judo" and "hand touch damage blows" ??
Matt Pennington (4/26/2007)
But I do think LRP is a hobby best enjoyed in a positive state of mind.
If you approach a game with a positive attitude then you're more likely to enjoy yourself there.
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Very true, there is a difference and unfortunately when the hand dammage blows come raining in on some one they are all too often tempted to block and counter with their own hands (most of us are more at home fighting with our hands and feet thans swords so its second nature) and thats when the fight or even worse "whinging" starts. To avoid a "toys out of the pram" scenario you have to so absolutely sure that your opponant is ok with it, that it kind of make the fight pointless. Which brings us back to choreographed pieces to augment the role playing.
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Ascendancy (and its predecessor) uses unarmed combat between consenting players and crew. You have to have a special skill to use it effectively, which limits it to only those who really want to do it. (it also cut down on the 'fistfight in some sand' combats that occurred)
any of the kicks, punches and similar should not make contact, and wrestling manoevres should be performed as safe as possible. It's not been unknown for players and crew to stop and briefly explain what they are intending to do (I'm going to kick you three times, here here and here) and then perform the maneovre.
Though minor knocks and injuries are fairly common, it's on about par with using weapons, possibly slightly less.
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DNDLarp itself is basically D&D rules, which means without unarmed combat the monk class is effectively a waste of space. Obviously enough I'm allowing unarmed - but as everyone needs to clear their character with a ref it means that only competent people are allowed to take any levels of Monk. Without a level of Monk you don't get the unarmed combat ability, and any unarmed strikes will only cause subdue damage - in other words not worth doing unless you want to knock someone out (and you can do that with most weapons anyway).
As far as grappling goes - if you want to stop someone moving we can use the basic grapple rules (a lot easier with LARP than d20), though we haven't had a use of them yet, so probably need to point out the rules to the refs again. Basically it's just grabbing hold of both upper arms, from either in front or behind, and using the standard PHB rules on it.
Technically I also don't let people use ranged weapons unless they can show some proficiency in them - simply out of a safety aspect.
If two people (or more) want to agree between themselves on anything extra (such as headshots, or brawling, etc) then as long as the refs know then I've got no problems (provided the players also know when it's outside the scope of the insurance).
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Xarra (7/27/2007)
- I'd be worried that a martial-arts trained LARPer with unarmed might react instinctively - and not safely - with the unarmed skill.
Ive heard this repeatedly for several years now and after personal experience I have come to the conclusion that it is a lie perpetrated by people having a bit of an ego-wank. IF (I say 'IF' because it is very very very unlikely) you have trained in martial arts to the extent that your reactions would be 'Instinctive' <i>outside</i> of the setting in which you usually employ martial arts (i.e. your martial arts class/ sparring or competition) Then you will also be trained to the level where you should be able to withold those instincts because you KNOW that you are in a situation where that response is innappropriate. If you are claiming to have reached some level of 'l33t ninjahood' where your skills are just so instinctive you couldnt control yourself within the confines of an LRP game then you are in my submission a lying oik who deserves to actually be involved in a real fight at somepoint at which juncture you will realise just how useless the vast majority of your 'skills' are. Anyone who claims they might have this problem would presumably also have the same 'instinctive response' when attacked by someone with an LRP knife... however strangely thses people rarely appear to immeadiately arm lock a knife wielding assailant and floor them. However to give them the benefit of the doubt someone claiming to have skills so instinctive they cant control themselves should be banned from all LRP games on the grounds of safety. This will solve your problem. However in a more constructive vain.... one system which does allow unarmed 'rough housing combat' used a 'mutual consent' rule. Basically to initiate an unarmed combat you spread your arms, shouted at your opponent (to get their attention), then clapped your hands together... if they were happy to engage in hand to hand they would respond by clapping their hands together to. Then off you go... (according to the rules etc of your particular system. So people who didnt want to do the physical hand to hand thing didnt have to. This also made sure that people had eye contact first so no-one ever got randomly jumped on by some 28 stone LRP'er from behind.
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Flannel (1/21/2008)Basically to initiate an unarmed combat you spread your arms, shouted at your opponent (to get their attention), then clapped your hands together... if they were happy to engage in hand to hand they would respond by clapping their hands together to. Then off you go... That`s really good. I mean, the idea is nothing new, but the implementation is very non-disruptive. Very smooth. (It also guarantees the fighters start empty-handed.)
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Flannel (1/21/2008)
Xarra (7/27/2007)
- I'd be worried that a martial-arts trained LARPer with unarmed might react instinctively - and not safely - with the unarmed skill.
Ive heard this repeatedly for several years now and after personal experience I have come to the conclusion that it is a lie perpetrated by people having a bit of an ego-wank.
Weirdly I was just about to say the same thing. If you're such an amazing martial artist that you can't help but instantly break the neck of anyone who surprises you in any way, I'd very surprised if you weren't spending life in a high security jail rather than coming to a LARP event.
I have yet to meet any martial artist who would have trouble fighting safely in unarmed combat - in fact, in my experience they're safer, because they do unarmed combat every week without seriously injuring themselves or others.
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