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Smoking
 
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Drinking
 
40%
10
They are both equally bad
 
24%
6
Neither causes any problems
 
12%
3
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Posted Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:54 PM


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It’s a bloody silly, but commendable idea Tart! I’d love to see the testing centre with it’s on site bar. However, it does highlight that the law allowing a person to drive when they are just a bit pissed is rather strange.

it'd be awesome! you could build up to it... so you down a shot, they test your level, then you do a test - repeat until you fail. Then set that as your "safe" level.

But you are right, the law is bizarre. clearly we don't mind people being a bit drunk, or a bit tired, or a bit distracted... I'm just advocating fairness. While we are on the subject: Mobile phones... So, that's beyond the pale but chatting to passengers and fiddling with the stereo is ok? Odd. all very odd.

Yep - also eating, the picking of the nose, checking of the make-up, or, indeed - the (possibly rolling) and lighting and smoking of a cigarette - seen people rolling a smoke with complete lack of regard for the fact that they are driving. At least there, it seems, we agree!

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Posted Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:38 PM


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There are all sorts of technical reasons why talking on a mobile phone while driving (even a handsfree phone) is considerably more distracting than talking to a passenger or listening to the radio, as any number of studies have shown... there's no save level of phone conversation while driving.

Incidentally, call me a killjoy if you like, but I don't drink any amount of alcohol any time I plan to drive, and I aim to get at least 8 hours sleep each night before I plan to drive the following day.


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Posted Friday, July 13, 2007 9:38 AM


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For the record, as I stated to Tart in a PM way back when, I did not give him that title.

And as I stated to Pete, should the situation become objectionable to anyone, I will remove all of the personalised titles.


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Posted Friday, July 13, 2007 9:38 AM


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Ian: Really? Can you explain a bit more? I'd be interested to know what the differences are.



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Post #36776
Posted Friday, July 13, 2007 10:31 AM


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Radio -- you mentally "switch off" listening to the radio programme, automatically, if you need to concentrate more on your driving. It's still a distraction, but according to various experiments, a relatively minor one that can easily be ignored as the need arises.

Talking to a passenger -- the passenger is aware of the car's environment too, so if you're doing a tricky maneuver, or in heavy traffic or bad weather, they'll moderate their conversation accordingly; if they see you suddenly needing to concentrate more on driving, they'll shut up entirely, even mid-sentence. There's less of a perceived need to fill in gaps & silences in the conversation. You & the passenger are, at least peripherally, aware of body language, so you don't need to struggle & strain to catch every word. Intonation & tone of voice are clearer too, so again you don't have to concentrate so hard.

Talking on a mobile -- no body language cues, poorer sound quality means less expressive tones of voice; these two factors already mean you're concentrating far more of your attention on the conversation, just to be able to fully understand it. You know if you miss even a word or two, you may lose track of important info. The person on the other end of the phone keeps rabbitting on even if you're trying to get onto a busy roundabout in driving sleet. Basically the whole quality of attention you give the person is different. At the very least this delays your reactions to changing situations on the road in a way that talking to a passenger is much less likely to do.


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Posted Friday, July 13, 2007 11:53 AM


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Fair enough, that makes sense I think.

Bit academic for me anyway: I don't talk on a mobile when I drive, and I'm nto spending money on a bluetooth headset - no matter how tempting it is to pretend I'm madonna...



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