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delvy (1/8/2008)
In fact they were bloody awful.
Actually they're awesome... and less of the past tense please, they're still going!
Ascendancy LRP: Redvers Fenn-Cooper Crimson Requiem: Crew Real Life: Doug McKerracher Quis custodiet ipsos custard?
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Squire
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Games workshop have made (over the course of time) a great many marketing decisions that have caused bile to rise from the 'old hippy bikers' and their padwans, this should make us sad because these are often the people who when push comes to shove care enough about the hobby at large (from very serious living history to cheap spin off collectable card games) that they will stand up and be counted.
In fact over time many have been outraged, this was I think because they felt as is often the case that they could have done it so much better, the truth is however that the company did what it had to do to bring in the readys, the question remains I suppose, should it have been about the hobby or the cash, are these mutually exclusive goals?
It seems from what has happened that it might be the case but that would be a real shame as wouldent we all love to do the things we like best as a steady daily.
Heres the thing though, I personally feel let down by Games Workshop and particularly those visionarys who started it, however... the product is still good, very good actually, the cannon has been expanded and polished, the fugures are of an
excellent quality for those who like that style of sculpting and the fact is by boycotting there premises and so on it abstracts those who find the hobby through them further from the rest of us.
If GW is lost I do not think it will be in the ways that have been stated, the company I am sure will survive, but will the cannon and the front of English ireverance that go out to the world with it? I think not, after being taken over by some larger entity that cares not a jot for even its own part of the hobby it will become a bland non entity and that will serve no one.
I'm not sure I have a real point but these are my thoughts in brief, feel free to tear them apart, my ego is small but my centre is large.
Enjoy, M.
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| I saw this, and immediately thought of this thread. http://www.blackindustries.com/?template=BI&content=newslist&newsitem=350 28/January/2008 - Black Industries Announcement Black Industries regret to announce that Dark Heresy: Disciples of the Dark Gods out in September will be the final product to be released from Black Industries.
Kevin Rountree General Manager of BL Publishing said ‘As a result of the continued and impressive success of our core novels business, which we have built around 40K and Warhammer, we have decided to focus all of our efforts on growing this part of our business. Black Industries has seen fantastic success, most recently with Talisman and Dark Heresy. This change does not take away from that achievement rather it allows BL Publishing to focus on producing the best novels we can. This is a purely commercial decision and will enable us to carry on the huge growth that we have recently been experiencing with our novels’
For the time being Black Industries will continue to post articles in support of the products on their official website, which is a fantastic resource for scenarios and gaming tools for GM’s and players alike. |
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| Considering this announcement has come literally days after they announced that on the strength of pre-orders alone the new 40K RPG had sold out, I think that this announcement has come a little premature.
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You could interpret what he said as "We'll only be focusing on things built around 40k and Warhammer". I doubt that's what he meant, but if the 40kRPG is a Borat-style big success I expect that's the line they'll take.
Personally, I can't wait for the new RPG. Inquisitor was good but hampered by the models-on-a-table aspect. This new game will get away from that limitation and be all the better for it. (I hope...)
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Dumnonni Dog (1/26/2008)
the product is still good, very good actually, the cannon has been expanded and polished, the fugures are of an
excellent quality for those who like that style of sculpting Im not sure I agree. The quality of their metal casting is poor compared to other premium minature companies.... very poor in fact. Rackham for example turn out far better quality and more detailed sculpts on their metal. The amount of Flash and cleaning I usually need on a GW sculpt is embarassing. GW have forged ahead in plastics casting though. They have only recently however begun to admit that they dont need to be doing metal casting as their plastics casting is fine enough.... actually their plastics have been fine for a few years now.... the reason they continued to make parts in lead was to charge a premium. However both their plastic product and their metal product are laughably overpriced for the quality. Which is I presume why the tend to lose the older wargamer market... In addittion they constantly supply products in idiot formats which provide you with nearly enough model parts for extra units but actually require you to buy another entire kit to finish them. See also their equally irritating parts ordering service which curiously does not supply some parts. Oddly their historical wargaming books were well recieved but they failed to supprt them with miniatures. the reason for which is I suspect they couldnt compete in that market. The Games are still good, however they are sorely in danger of shooting themselves with their insistance on providing poor quality at premium prices. Their plastics may have to be looked at as well given the forging ahead in pre-paints and price in other countries.
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| Personally, I'm not all that impressed with their plastics. Sure, they're pretty, but for me they're just 'meh'. (I collect WW2 model tanks, and the detail and precision of these models is much better IMO) I'm really surprised by GW's decision to close Black industries, it makes no sense to me, but then I'm not a business man.. The thing is, GW are really struggling at the moment, in 2007 they made a loss of £2.1 million, and borrowed £10.2 million, and their share dividend went from 18.975p to 4.95p.. They've implemented a loss reduction strategy, so they're tightening their belts, so have decided to close BI and focus on novels. (Given BI was making a profit, I still don't understand why they would close it, it's not like novels and RPGs are mutually exclusive). Still, given their track record I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. 
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| Hello, all. This is my first post and I would like to add to the discussion by asking a question or two. Recently, I've applied to work for GW, and I have an interview coming up soon for a sales assistant post (40+hours) Now, I've worked in the retail industry before, so I'm well used to minimum wage/problem customers/long hours etc. I was wondering if people could post their experiences of working for GW. Was it good or bad etc. I've heard a lot about high turnover of staff, and shoddy treatment of staff, but I've heard some good things as well. Any views posted will go a long way in helping memake a decision. Thanks for your time
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