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I blame the fencers, myself.
For centuries, they've been making out that the traditional european war swords were heavy cudgels, and people believed them.
I reckon a western long sword (not the rubbish given to rank and file, a proper one) is a match for a katana, quality wise.
Its not even like the Japanese invented pattern welding. The Vikings came up with that trick.
When the Japanese came up against the Mongols, they expressed deep respect for the Mongol's swords, while their own had a tendency to lose their tips in the Mongol's studded leather armour.
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Lavlin (5/10/2007)
When I use WMA weapons and techniques, I make chopped chicken liver out of most people who`ve had instruction on how to use them from an 'official' instructor. The difference being that I`ve had a budo sensei and a fencing maitre instead.Define 'official'. To the best of my knowledge most decent WMA instructors (including mine) have a pretty sound grounding in fencing and other martial arts. Lavlin (5/10/2007)
what would happen when you put a mounted lancer against a mounted archer? Neither the knight, nor the samurai had swords as their primary weapon. Not to mention that they`re not exactly contemporary and both went through an evolution, so what knight against what samurai?This isn't about scrupulous historical accuracy, rather providing a serious-yet-entertaining answer to a silly question that is often posed in the interweb. The popular image of both knights and samurai involves swords, therefore the fight is with swords. As for what knight against what samurai? I propose simply using representations of both at their 'peak' as it were, so the knight would be late Medieval/Renassaince and the samurai would be, well, from the period when samurai were at their bestest.
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| Hey just thought, what about including armour in this vid? Wouldn't a Katana fall apart if you tried to use it against Knights Plate armour? Maybe I'm taking this too seriously. I'm not even in a pub drunk, it just seems like one of those kind of conversations.
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Shelford (5/11/2007)
Hey just thought, what about including armour in this vid? Wouldn't a Katana fall apart if you tried to use it against Knights Plate armour? Maybe I'm taking this too seriously. I'm not even in a pub drunk, it just seems like one of those kind of conversations. If the katana is one of those ones that was folded 2,000 times and made above the snow line of a particularly mystical mountain it'll go straight through the armour, and the knight and not even have a drop of blood on it.
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Mr Dreadful (5/11/2007)
Define 'official'. To the best of my knowledge most decent WMA instructors (including mine) have a pretty sound grounding in fencing and other martial arts.I never met them. One of the more renowned is a movies fight choreographer and I`ll assume he knows his way around a weapon, but I have a strong suspicion that what he teaches leans heavily towards show-fighting. I had some links on my other machine, but I`m yet to copy the harddisk (since it`s not big enough to take out and reuse). Shelford (5/11/2007)
Hey just thought, what about including armour in this vid? Wouldn't a Katana fall apart if you tried to use it against Knights Plate armour?You mean gothic harness? Okay, I`ve just turned into a frothing fanboy. Please wait while I dip my head in a bucket of cold water. *gurglegurglegurglegurglegurgle* Now that you`ve found the site without using the address I provided... Have a look at the videos section. There is a nice one of that same J. Clements doing one of those wet-reedmat-wrapped-around-a-pole cutting exercises, not with a katana, but with a blunt (!) longsword, with exactly the same results. As well as vids of taking a sharp sword to a chainmail-wrapped-around-a-wet-reedmat-wrapped-around-a-pole and a helmet-on-a-pole with no result whatsoever.
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Test cutting vs armour is notoriously difficult to do in anything resembling a scientific manner -- I don't trust videos on the ARMA site for that kind of thing at all...
I'm prepared to believe that most armour (padded, mail, or plate alike) worked a great deal better than most LRP games give it credit for though.
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Lavlin (5/11/2007)
Have a look at the videos section. There is a nice one of that same J. Clements doing one of those wet-reedmat-wrapped-around-a-pole cutting exercises, not with a katana, but with a blunt (!) longsword, with exactly the same results. As well as vids of taking a sharp sword to a chainmail-wrapped-around-a-wet-reedmat-wrapped-around-a-pole and a helmet-on-a-pole with no result whatsoever.Ummm... I suck. I can't find the videos section. EDIT: I just found the videos section. I was looking in the wrong place. Doh.
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