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Simon (2/2/2008) Except I don't think I could kill or prepare any kind of meat or fish - so I'm vegetarian. I've had some close fights with quorn though...
The quorn was asking for it though, I bet!
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| I have recently taken a more ethical approach to my eating habits. I don't want to be vegetarian but my choices are based around being decent to living creatures. As such i have decided i will happily eat fish, shellfish and chicken (as long as it has been ethically reared). I do not believe fish are advanced enough to reason fear in the same way as higher animals, likewise chickens and other poultry are very low intelligence and don't appreciate what is coming in the same way as cows, lambs, pigs etc... Pigs are especially bright and i am not comfortable eating them knowing that they have likely been scared feckless at their impending doom. End of the day these are individual choices and we all must do whatever we feel comfortable with. On moral grounds this is enough for me and i wouldn't turn down any meat if it was presented to me in error. It is more a case of what i feel comfortable choosing and eating myself.
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| Fish and shellfish sure, but chicken? Chicken are definately highest on the list of 'most likely to be reared in a box' Free range chicken fine, but that rules out any take-away chicken, and most of the chicken in butchers and supermarkets - unless it is specifically labelled as such. Any competent slaughter-man will ensure animals are killed without knowledge of what is to befall them - but the slaughterhouse system in this country is insanely bureacratic and not always in the best interests of the animals. It is actually illegal to slaughter livestock on the farm for food for instance. Personally I'm less likely to ask questions about lamb (an inherently free range meat, pretty much always raised out of doors on grass) and most fussy about chicken and pig (because of the grown in boxes issues - pigs are also very likely to be factory farmed).
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Wag
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Acer (3/11/2008)
I do not believe fish are advanced enough to reason fear in the same way as higher animals, likewise chickens and other poultry are very low intelligence and don't appreciate what is coming in the same way as cows, lambs, pigs etc...
Pigs are especially bright and i am not comfortable eating them knowing that they have likely been scared feckless at their impending doom.
Is this based on purported objective evidence of animal intelligence or whether they look cute (i.e. trigger the baby protecting instinct)?
Marios
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Acer (3/11/2008)
I do not believe fish are advanced enough to reason fear in the same way as higher animals, likewise chickens and other poultry are very low intelligence and don't appreciate what is coming in the same way as cows, lambs, pigs etc... Pigs are especially bright and i am not comfortable eating them knowing that they have likely been scared feckless at their impending doom. I realise this is an awkward question, and might sound harsh, but if you'll eat meat that didn't know it was being raised for death (ie too stupid to realise), does that mean you'll eat roadkill, game that was unaware it was being hunted, (here's a harsh one) household pets, or (here's the harshest one) humans? Do you also avoid leather and other products caused by animal death? I'm not trying to be an arse here, I just want to fully understand your reasoning.
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Wag
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Acer (3/11/2008)
It is more a case of what i feel comfortable choosing and eating myself.The rest of this debate gets blown away by this one sentence.
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Champion
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I like vegans.
They do not have the moral bankruptcy of vegetarians.
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H (3/11/2008)
They do not have the moral bankruptcy of vegetarians.
They're either Jains or they're posers.
Marios
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H (3/11/2008)
I like vegans.
They do not have the moral bankruptcy of vegetarians.I dunno, I find the arbitary decision to classify the worth of life by whether it is apprarently 'moving' or not rather strange.
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