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| In answer to peoples questions..... perhaps we should read the bill? Smoking will be allowed in "any premises where a person has his home, or is living permanently or temporarily" you may even smoke in such a place in front of a health visitor... you are not required to provide warning. Which comprises most tents on LRP sites.
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Flannel (4/26/2007)
In answer to peoples questions..... perhaps we should read the bill? Smoking will be allowed in "any premises where a person has his home, or is living permanently or temporarily" you may even smoke in such a place in front of a health visitor... you are not required to provide warning. Which comprises most tents on LRP sites. Your personal OOC tent that you are living in yes, but not IC tents. (I read the act yesterday!)
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I’m wondering if the ban may influence site owners to take a further step and make their sites smoke free, even if they are outdoors. I can easily imagine Scout Sites banning smoking anywhere on site in the future.
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StuartMaher (4/26/2007)
Your personal OOC tent that you are living in yes, but not IC tents. (I read the act yesterday!) Yes they are if you are living in them. If you have a group IC tent and one of you kips in it then its an abode. I can invite the public into my home but that does not make it a public premisis. However Facilities provided by the organiser (I.e. Tavs and possibly trade stalls) would be covered. So if you mean those IC tents then yah you're right.
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[quote]StuartMaher (4/26/2007)
Your personal OOC tent that you are living in yes, but not IC tents.[quote] gets a bit silly if you sleep in your ic tent doesn't it. I suppose it depends on whether we really think that the local council spies will turn up at a large lrp event or spend their time sneaking around the city centre bars. I would suspect that the organisers of such lrp events will have to/be expected to maintain smoke free zones in their large marquees, bars etc but group tents in the faction will be below the radar. You can see the headlines though can't you, 'Man fined for smoking in tent in a field!' RobS
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Shelford (4/26/2007)
I’m wondering if the ban may influence site owners to take a further step and make their sites smoke free, even if they are outdoors. I can easily imagine Scout Sites banning smoking anywhere on site in the future.Possibly.... but they can't get anyone to enforce it so they probably won't bother.It certainly won't be criminal.
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Flannel (4/26/2007)
However Facilities provided by the organiser (I.e. Tavs and possibly trade stalls) would be covered. So if you mean those IC tents then yah you're right.
{Devils Advocate}
But what if the organizers provide those facilities for people to sleep in? What if they give you the tents to use as private abodes?
{/Devils Advocate}
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Flannel (4/26/2007)
Because they are a bunch of gits who can get away with it... which explains why they don't charge more for people who light candles.
Besides its a Myth.
My quotes were absolutely no different whether I ticked smoking or not.
I shall point out that the UK smoking ban allows people to smoke on Oil rigs. which are really rather flammable.
Fire is not in fact a dangerous thing... it is only dangerous in the hands of Morons. I like to think of that as natural selection. 
You might be right about the higher premiums on smokers but I certainly am not impressed by having to pay for their claims when they burn down their houses (on the basis that my house is very unlikely to burn down due to a smoker - maybe a burglar with a nicotine habit).
This lot seem to think there is a risk, http://www.firekills.gov.uk/.
I'm pretty sure that on oil rigs the areas you can smoke in are well defined and risk assessed, i.e not near the flammable stuff. Probably the hazard of not letting people smoke and then a few lighting up in secret in potentially very hazardous places probably outweighs just letting many smoke in proscribed areas.
Strictly speaking fire is hazardous rather than specifically dangerous. Unfortunately we are all morons from time to time (even the best of us).
My point was that smoking inside a tent is a hazard. I accept that there a bunch of other hazardous things we do in tents, just that not being allowed to smoke is no great loss, especially when their are morons around.
Besides I'm fed up picking up other peoples fag butts around our IC tent after packing up.
Dan.
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