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| Apparently people are afraid they cannot talk about this. That rule 7 will be a nanny state board. So lets see how long before this post gets moderated/deleted. Religion has spent most of it's life being used as a shield. First to shield people from the unexplained. Good old volcano god is a classic way to explain whay this mountain kept vommiting death on the people. When primitive man lacked understanding they created there gods and they used them to shield them from the unexplained. However as time went buy people realised these shields were good things and could also be used in other ways, and people used them as shields for there actions. I killed him because the gods/my god demanded it. Does this mean all religion is bad.. No, far from it. A lot of religions are also based around helping other people. A lot of good has come oit of the charity created by a lot of religions and a lot of people around the worls are alive because of this. The people who hide behind these religous shields just give most religions a bad name. Am I religous. I don;t know. I was brought up catholic, but can;t hoestly say I have belief or faith anymore. I will gladly sign up to any creed that promotes good even if it hides behind a shield of religous mumbo jumbo. Stu
RL: Stuart Maher PD: Stuart Maher in a frock coat LT: Stuart maher in orange hi-vis Omega: Stuart Maher in a rat mask BUTT: Stuart Maher in various crap costumes EOS: Stuart Maher writing plot EOS - Book now, thank me later. I was going to copyright my posts... but then remembered this is an LRP forum!
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Sign up? Do you think that's really necessary? What if signing up to one belief system prevents you from legitimately signing up to another one?
Why not just steal all the 'good bits' for your own, spraypaint your own logo over the top, and practice Stu-ism?
It's what Microsoft do, after all, and look where that's got them!
(chris)
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| Ravensbourne, I think your idea of "good bits" is called Gnosticism, although I'm not definite. A lot of the religious talk I read on pagga described what man did and his religious excuse for it. If I stole something from someone, claiming I did it in the name of Ghandi (for example) the knee jerk reaction is to blame Ghandi. The measured response, for a better phrase, is to realise that what Ghandi stood for might not be what people did in his name.
RL: Dave Lowry // PD: Kyle Harkyn // WP: Jaysan O'Connell The pen is mightier than the sword....but a sword dipped in ink, now that's a good compromise. "We're all descended from Orcs" - Dara O'Briain, Tough Gigs
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Dave (5/17/2006) Ravensbourne, I think your idea of "good bits" is called Gnosticism, although I'm not definite.
Gnosticism is actually quite specific: it refers to the practice of direct experience of and interaction with deity, rather than the practice of using intermediaries, or of interacting with deity only through intercessory ritual without direct experience of the nature of said deity. An example here would be the difference between a priest of Apollo in Attic Greece, who would not (under normal circumstances) expect to ever experience gnosis, and the Delphi Oracle, whose entire purpose in existing was to experience gnosis rather a lot.
While Gnosticism as a proper noun is usually used to identify a Christian sect who got in trouble with the early church because they didn't believe in bishops, small-g gnosticism is a general technical term. The modern term 'agnostic' didn't start out as meaning one who is undecided about religion; it originally just meant one who has no personal experience of deity, as a contrast to atheists who actively believed there was no such thing as deity.
The practice of nicking the bits which work for you personally from any and all religious codes and practices you can find is called 'eclecticism', and is most visible in modern western society in the form of the self-styled Eclectic Wiccans. The extent to which they are still Wiccans if they are Eclectic is a vigorously debated topic among people who care. Me, I just enjoy arguing with Americans on the internet, and that topic is always likely to provide a good fluffy-bunny hunt.
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Dave (5/17/2006) Ravensbourne, I think your idea of "good bits" is called Gnosticism, although I'm not definite.No, he said it's called Stu-ism No pray for my forgiveness be-atch
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oops, I got it wrong! Thanks for the clarifcation, Chris!
As for Stu-ism, I don't think it's my cup of tea!
RL: Dave Lowry // PD: Kyle Harkyn // WP: Jaysan O'Connell The pen is mightier than the sword....but a sword dipped in ink, now that's a good compromise. "We're all descended from Orcs" - Dara O'Briain, Tough Gigs
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Join the leigons of discord, Eris teaches do what you want, just try and be nice.
_____________________________________________________________________________After saying goodbye to sanity, you throw it off the edge and watch it tumble into the fierce furnace below... The Volcano rumbles, and then the Volcano God himself suddenly manifests in front of you. In response to your offering he curses you with a sarcastic god queue pass.
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