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Sarah (3/15/2007)
Only on the ceiling? Mine have made orbit.This is because you are a woman and your television assisted eye-brows have gained power at my expense from watching female eye-candy in bad sci-fi tv.
(I always assumed that the attractive women were injected arbitrarily into bad sci-fi programs for my sexual gratification, I'm so relieved to find out it was actually to empower men-hating women).
History is an important source for LRP. Along with other works of fiction.
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ChessyPig (3/16/2007)
Except we wouldn't, because there would be enormous peer pressure within parties to tell the whip how you voted, and witch-hunts for the people who voted differently when the numbers didn't add up.
There is already enormous peer-pressure. At present though, the people who apply the peer pressure have a mechanism to tell if the people they applied it to, did as they asked. Their peer-pressure is enhanced because they can actually carry out the threats they make because they can check if you did as they threatened. Vote for this or you are out of the party. Vote for that or your career is over. Vote for this and you'll be second deputy-minister for head lice treatment in developing nations.
In theory they could apply more pressure if they could no longer tell, but I think that assumes that they aren't already applying as much pressure as they possibly can... In practice I think it would weaken the effects of brow-beating, remove any ability to threaten or coherently bribe people and that would relatively enhance the effects of actually trying to persuade people. Heck they could even try and persuade them while they were in the house of commons.... They could call it a debate and everything. Yes, I'm an eternal optimist.
Also, adding more incentive for our politicians to be accustomed to habitual lying (because if they want to rebel from the party they have to lie to the whip about how they voted) is probably not a great idea. I think lying to the House of Commons should be classified as treason and punished accordingly. You're undermining the democratic basis of the country and deliberately trying to foil her majesties government. I wouldn't be opposed to the death penalty in this case. However I have no problem at all with politicians lying to each other... The thought doesn't horrify me overly...
In practice I don't think you're right because the sheer pointlessness of asking MPs how they voted, after the vote was taken would mean that pretty much no-one would bother. That's my expectation.
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Xollob (3/15/2007)
Ah sorry i never went on teh google to get proven stats for my claim that not all men like football, but if your inclined to, just look at the tv times and see four yourself how much t.v is for females only, while men only have a few sports shows on at the weekend.That's nonsense. The rights to show homegrown Football, Cricket, Boxing, Horseracing et al are amongst the most valuable and highly saught after TV content. Just because Auntie Beeb can't afford anything more than highlight shows and snooker (outside of the events that the govt. demands be on terrestrial) does not mean there is no sport on telly. Film 4 couldn't get enough subscribers at £5 a month to make money yet Sky has over a million people paying extra money on top of the normal subscriptions just to watch sport. And then people pay extra money on top of the for Pay per View boxing / wrestling or for certain Premiership matches. Check out your local pubs. How many have a large screen? How many of those large screens are there for people wanting to watch Will & Grace or Sex and the City?
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Xollob (3/15/2007)
Ah sorry i never went on teh google to get proven stats for my claim that not all men like football,
There is no need at all to find any stats to prove that claim. That's a perfectly reasonable claim, in fact, I can prove it for you right here. I'm a man. I don't like football. There, not all men like football.
What I would like is some stats to prove your claim that
Xollob (3/13/2007)
most men dont like football
which is a considerably more difficult claim to justify... As it happens, I'm pretty confident that it's true, but only in the anodyne sense that more men don't like football than do like football. Football is the most popular sport in the country (after angling?), and the followers are overwhelmingly male.
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Xollob (3/15/2007)
Ah sorry i never went on teh google to get proven stats for my claim that not all men like football, but if your inclined to, just look at the tv times and see four yourself how much t.v is for females only, while men only have a few sports shows on at the weekend.No, your claim was that MOST men don't like football, which I'd like to think is pretty obviously different from saying that not all men do. And I'm probably being dense, but even if its true that most TV is aimed specifically at women, how exactly does that demonstrate either claim?
No spoken or written word can ever be a substitute for one's own practical experience. No-one too can convince another who does not wish to believe what he is told - only the doubter loses by his incredulity - T.C. Lethbridge
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Bugger, sorry, I managed to miss Matt's reply.
No spoken or written word can ever be a substitute for one's own practical experience. No-one too can convince another who does not wish to believe what he is told - only the doubter loses by his incredulity - T.C. Lethbridge
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| I don't know about football- but the impression I've been given on Dealing with domestic violence training is that all men get shitfaced and then beat up women at the weekend- of course this could be biaised as the training is always delivered by Womens Aid workers who have themselves been victims. As a consequence I've decided that the reason why TV is so shit at the weekend is because it is jointly sponsored by Breweries and Womens Aid who both need to drive men out of the house at weekends in order to ensure their continued survival
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nesciomancer (3/15/2007)
Why would I want to empower myself at the expense of women? It's a bit like Robin Hood stealing from the rich because the poor have nothing worth stealing.
Misogynist!
Sarah (3/15/2007)
Not a fan of the new Starbuck then?
What character isn't improved by child abuse?
Andy Rimmer (3/16/2007)
As a consequence I've decided that the reason why TV is so shit at the weekend is because it is jointly sponsored by Breweries and Womens Aidwho both need to drive men out of the house at weekends in order to ensure their continued survival
Good to see some applying incentive-based reasoning.
Marios
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