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Posted Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:14 AM
Heroic Knight

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Hi lads and lasses, josh here from Gunman (LAUK).  WOW, what a great response.  I better clear some stuff up here, not that I ever go on forums, but got a mail from one of the lads to check this out.

Ok…first up, IT’S A ROLE PLAY GAME!!!  So, there will be every hero side covered, not loathsome nazi murder. It is a game about WAR however!

Topic of ethics… my favourite subject.  My grandfather watch his whole family hung from a tree by Nazi’s, he was Polish  (no longer with usL) No one of his age or that lived through the 2WW will be at the event! So please don’t worry about upsetting them.  If its you that might get upset, we won’t see you thereL sorry, but maybe at one of our other events!

I have the up most respect for my piers and have only agreed to run such a ROLE PLAY event because I trust those that are booking on and crewing to also have such a respect.  Its not like this is being sold over the counter to anyone.

As for the horrific things the Nazi did during this period! If that were a factor we would never play any role play games again! as every story in history has its Horror. 

You don’t here anyone shouting about the British Empire when people want to run Victoriana events or complaining about the Roman and Vikings games that are still very popular.  All these great stories had some kind of true genocide behind them.

Re-enactors…thanks for the history tips and be assured we will stay away from the filth but not the grit of the 2WW as it is a GAME! Please book on and let us entertain you, which is what we have been doing since 1983. 

All of this would have been explained before had the website been finished…I’m trying and am very sorry on that note!  It will be hosted at www.gunmanairsoft.co.uk very soon.

IRON EAGLE
Ok, why start with Germans.  Because it’s the hardest to do and we love a challenge.  The Axis and Allie games will be woven together and there might be characters on both sides that get to know each other during the experience.  How cool would a Christmas battle in 2008 be, both sides get to meet for one day and share stories. 

From Josh.

I love this hobby and have such great hopes and designs for future events.  If nothing else this topic has given me enough fuel for many more.  If you have any other queries about the game feel free to mail me.

Cheers all

JJ

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Posted Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:21 PM
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Hi Gunman.

Cheers for the reply. Sounds like you're aiming for the right balance there. I've ranted my opinions at great length, but I'm going to shut my gob now as I guess I shouldn't pre-judge an event before it happens. If you're going to do some allied based stuff I'll be in the queue to book. Let us know how the Iron Eagle event goes, and I assume they'll be pictures on the website.

Demarkation.

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Posted Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:44 PM
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We already have SOME photos but there will be loads more too.  Ill keep everyone posted

JJ

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Posted Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:54 PM


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Gunman (4/17/2007)

Ok…first up, IT’S A ROLE PLAY GAME!!!  So, there will be every hero side covered, not loathsome nazi murder. It is a game about WAR however!

So? How does that lessen the fact that you're dressing up as Nazi's? Is this like when someone says something horribly vicious and nasty and then claims they are joking? In both cases, it's still distasteful.

I'm even more disturbed that you seem to think that because it's a roleplaying game, that somehow lessens the impact of SS LRP.

Please, show me these alleged many Roman and Viking LRPs. I can think of one Viking game,  and not only does it enjoy the distance of history, it's a political game.

To my knowledge, no one is running 'British Empire opresses India' LRP. I'd be rather sceptical about that as well, though I can see how it can be run well, in the same way I can see WW2 lrp being rewarding.

I find it interesting that all those involved are your peers, as this event was also advertised at a fest LRP with over 800 players. That's a lot of peers to trust they won't behave like idiots.


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Posted Friday, April 20, 2007 7:56 AM
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Ok....well I guess we wont see you there Ed

As for not knoing whats going on the the lrp world such as viking, roman and victoriana games as a few, there is loads of great stuff that goes on outside of the forums, just becuase there not on the forums doesn't mean they not being run. 

As stated before, its axis vs allies, in Call of Duty 3 you can play Americans or GERMANS, the Nazi flag is flying everywhere in the game and doesn't stop 3 million people playing it, enjoying it or taking offence.

When I say piers I'm refering to the grand parents that lived through the War, not every tom, dick or harry in a field.

As for advertising the game, maybe we should do a questionaire with the booking form asking key questions about players sexual and personal preferences to make sure we don't get any wierdos booking on.  Thanks for the idea Ed, we will give that some thought

Its almost imposible to do IIWW without Nazi's as the whole country (be it be force) was Nazi.  Its a filthy word and I hate the very idea but in the words of some bloke, somewhere 'Its my art man and running events is what I do'

Maybe see you at one of our other events Ed, cheers for the post dude.

JJ

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Posted Friday, April 20, 2007 8:48 AM
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ooops, sorry for spelling and grammer in last post, just woke up
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Posted Friday, April 20, 2007 9:19 AM
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History and background of the Waffen SS an interesting link.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/waffenss.html

Please read the main text full before anyone throws this back in my face.

I'm not trying to stoke the fires here but to give, those who wish to tar all the waffen ss and those of us who wish to take part in this game as distasteful B#######, a little education first.

Tomk.

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Posted Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:47 PM


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Gunman (4/20/2007)

As for not knoing whats going on the the lrp world such as viking, roman and victoriana games as a few, thereisloads of great stuff that goes on outside of the forums, just becuase there not on the forums doesn't mean they not being run.



Oh crikey, there's plenty of poorly advertised LRP out there, but very little in the genre's you cite. Links please and contact details, as obviously you've access to a host of LRP events that the people here have never heard of.

Oddly enough, Victoriana and Viking are two games the Great LRP Consipiracy ran, a group that is on this forum, but as far as I know, they're an exception, not a rule.

There is a marked difference between owning Nazi regalia and uniforms, and double clicking on 'germany' on a First Person Shooter. It's odd that you don't get this.

What the hell has sexual preference got to do with anything? What is your definition of weirdo? What assurances are there that this isn't a Nazi Fetish Club disguised as a LRP event? (Not that I'm implying that it is, but understand this is not an unusual suspicion of something like Iron Eagle.)

What I've seen of Iron Eagle doesn't fill me with confidence, frankly. The advertising material I saw made no mention of being able to book to play Allies, more gave me the impression they would be crew.

What I did see was a great big sodding swastika and details as to how I could pick up my own jackboots, so I'm sure you can understand my revulsion.


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