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Knight
 
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How do you find flintlocks in lrp? What problems do you face as a player and an organiser? What are the best systems people have seen in use? Do you often come across 'a i shot you first situation?'
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The issue of ammo and reloading is something an organiser needs to think about....
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| Reloading can be controlled by rules or by wrapping the caps up in foil. Both work, but wrapping causes more litter. You should consider limiting shot, depending on what sort of game you want. Skills that allow you to avoid being shot should be very expensive because otherwise every man and his dog takes them. Its a trust based system, but then so is magic...
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It's worth looking at the earlier Pagga discussion about the same subject:
http://www.pagga.net/cgi-bin/vBulletin_v3/showthread.php?t=12173
I quite like "dodge" type rules so long as they're limited (once a day maybe?) and not too cheap (worth buying, but not too cheap). You almost need them, because they're the only way to avoid being hit otherwise.
Pistols should have "banter range" only. Muskets maybe 30'?
If the target doesn't realise they've been shot, the rules should say that they've been missed. This prevents a kind of "Shot you!" "Didn't!" "Did too!" exchange which can interrupt play.
Basically you need to restrict guns heavily unless you want the game to revolve predominantly around guns. Some options:
Expensive skills
Expensive guns
Expensive ammo
Restriction on how fast you can reload (about 20 seconds to 30 seconds is OK)
Short range
Dodge or Lucky skill
Some kind of spell or other semi-magical ability that provides immunity to gunshots but not to other forms of attack.
In my opinion you need at least 3 of the above, maybe more, unless you want guns to be way more important than melee and/or bows.
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| I like the Maelstrom way of doing it,mind you , I've not played any other gun-powder system, I just can't think of another way to slow down the gunbunnies and keep some kind of a check on them so they don't over power the game,ie: You cannot fire a gun untill you've loaded it by putting a 'gun-loaded' sticker on the back of the lammie aswell as a cap on the pin. The 'One-Second-Rule' applies, so your attacks must be one second apart (so no firing two pistols at once) Range of pistols is short (5 yards) so you only really have time for one or two shots before your enemy is close enough to belt you one, and you might have an empty pistol in each hand rather then something useful like a sword, or shield (you cannot use a gun as a hand weapon at all) Because the gun physreps weigh about as much as the real thing (and are expensive IC) even total gun heads can't carry all that many (NINE pistols and two muskets is the most I've seen, but he was a bit of a nut-job  ) H.
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The gun phys-reps weigh nothing like as much as the real thing, I fear.... they're even worse for that than LRP melee weapons.
Real thing:
Long Musket: 25 pounds
Short Musket: 20 pounds
Blunderbuss: 25 pounds
Pistol: 5 pounds
Pocket Pistol: 3 pounds
Etc.
Anyone carrying 9 pistols & 2 muskets is carrying the equivalent of a suit of full plate and about 20 swords....
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Otherwise usually crew ("Quite spry & fit, & willing to wear a big costume & run around a lot" -- various event organisers)
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Knight
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Thank you all for your views,
Damage wise what do you think a pistol should do if they are hard to get hold of and expensive.
If no ranged spells exsist is it enough that they have range?
Should they be deadly? Or just cause a point of damage? Has anyone ever seen any long term side effects from being shot with a pistol IC and how did it work?
Thanks
Neil
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Again, it depends what you want to achieve. If you want guns to be rare and frightening, then have them do a lot of damage. For example, in Blood Red Roses, they are very rare and ammo is strictly controlled; they do double through (in a system where default hits are 1 per location); entire encounters have run away from one gun before now.
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