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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:00 PM


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Should OOC considerations ever influence your IC actions?

Or to put it another way 'Would you back down from a murdering the PC of the guy who's giving you a lift home?'


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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:02 PM


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It's a hobby isn't it? Surely "but that's what my character would have done" is a crap excuse to ruin you mate's weekend (assuming that it does)?
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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:23 PM
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However to look at it another way. “I can do things to Bob’s character that will make his character want to kill me with no retribution because I’m giving Bob a lift home” is equally as crap.

Play you’re character to the hilt. OOC expect your character to die at any moment and have a back up plan for when it does. Therefore people won’t be worried about hurting your feelings if they play the game.


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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:24 PM
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Andy Rimmer (9/22/2006)
It's a hobby isn't it? Surely "but that's what my character would have done" is a crap excuse to ruin you mate's weekend (assuming that it does)?


(i) Is your mate really happy playing a character who only survived because someone felt obliged not to kill him for fear that he couldn't take it?
(ii) Would you be happy for the same attitude to apply in other hobbies/games? Would you throw a game of squash just to avoid upsetting your host?

I think in very light/trivial games, I might consider applying (ii) but if someone is investing time/effort in a game, I'd take that as a cue that they want you to play it properly.

I don't know about your mate, but I'd be more pissed off for my character to survive on someone else's OOC presumption that I couldn't handle it OOC than for them to die for IC reasons. And once you've lost that basic trust - that other people are playing the game as per the stated rules/intentions - it's rather hard to regain (anything you thought you'd achieved through cleverness/quick-thinking might merely have been someone else taking pity on you OOC).

If you know, for sure, that your mate's weekend will be ruined if he loses his character, isn't that the point where you suggest they retire the character/play something else for a bit until they've gained some perspective?
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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:24 PM
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I believe OOC considerations should in some circumstances influence IC decisions.

But I would not hold back on murdering a character because the player was giving me a lift home OOC. Thats plainly bribery/corruption exchanging an IC favour for an OOC one.

The sort of situations where OOC considerations should influence IC choices I think include:

Choices that would cause serious OOC offense/upset to players, e. g. playing a character who suffers from  incurable disease X when you know a player has/their child has the disease IRL. Of course, some players get OOC upset if their character dies; common sense must be exercised when deciding what is universally bad taste/unaceptable.

Choices that will directly and inevitably lead to something impossible for the game refs/organisers to physrep/adjudicate and effectively break the game. Of course, it helps to check with the refs if you see this coming as thay might be able to find a way around it. e. g. Actions that will force all players out of the the IC area 5 minutes after time in.

Choices that lead to OOC safety issues, e. g. wether 50 of you jump on the immune-to-everything plot monster to pin it down.

Choices that spoil the game for you, e. g. your character might perfectly reasonably never want to go to an event (after the first one, where you have some background reason for going) due to the high risk of death. usually its fairly easy to justify why they MIGHT be persuaded to go to the next one (possibility of gaining stuff, making contacts, fighting evil etc.) but you still actually WANT your character to go so are you making an impartial decision each time, or using the OOC consideration that you want to play your character?After all, they might just as easily go somewhere else to achieve their objectives. Is it ruled in every event that the event is the only happening thing in the world at that time, and nobody would want to be anywhere else?

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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:28 PM
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I agree with Marios. And Mikey's signature.

However, there is a line. For example, would your character kidnap and rape the PC of a woman you know OC was once sexually assaulted? Probably not. Would your character flash his knob to a group of small children - he might, but would you do it OC? I hope not. Would you rub chilis into your genitals just because your character would? Most people wouldnt. And so on.

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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:41 PM
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Actually I don't think the rubbing of Chillies was anything to do with his character.

But you've got a point. But anything to do with sex is a different kettle of fish than murde, thievery or whatever your sordid little minds can come up with in LRP.





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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 1:49 PM
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The rubbing chillis thing can be rp'd, you don't need to actually do it!

I've had a situation where i was verbally abusive to a girl, and used words she had issues with due to rl past events. She dropped out of character, said she had issues. I aplogised and bought her a drink, all was good.

Sure there are some issues that should maybe not be totally avoided but played with sensitivity. (Diseases as mentioned etc).

Obviously anything breaking the law is a no-no.

If youe charcater wants to get his knob out, why not make some kind of gesture with OC commentary 'i'm getting my knob out!'.
Suspension of disbelief is a wonderful thing!

LRP is an adult game, which touches on serious topics. If yuo think you're too fragile to play a system where x issue might get brought up, be prepared to avoid it if you need to, or play another fluffier game.

And NEVER stop playing your character because you think someone might fall out with you OC. Give them some credit, they're roleplaying too!


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Posted Friday, September 22, 2006 2:02 PM