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Heroic Knight
      
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| So how many (if any?) limits on your behaviour would you accept for a character? Would you accept playing a character that was not allowed (as an OC rule) to draw his sword except between the hours of 4-7pm? Would you accept playing someone who would never lie? Would you accept playing a character who only ever spoke in questions? Of course people have played such things before but what about playing all of the above at the same time? What if you had two or three restrictive rules would that spoil your enjoyment of the game? Is it not the rules but the reasons behind them that matter? I'm pondering such limits and wondering if a game in which each character had certain restrictions would be played or even playable. Gibberish or Genius?
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Heroic Knight
      
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As long as there's an appropriate IC justification, it's all good. I've played characters with geasa, it makes for a bit more interest. I would draw the line at imposing something on a PC against their will which caused them to be bored, such as "you can't go indoors before dusk" when most of your event is indoors and it's lunchtime.
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| Another vote for 'as long as there is an IC reason'. I'd be wary of examples such as an OC law preventing drawing the sword at various times. A better option might be that its possible under OC rules but there are IC consequences. For example, make it illegal for said character to draw sword. Or put him under a geas. So he can draw a sword under the metaphysics of the universe, but he will pay for it later.
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Champion
      
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Third vote for "as long as there's a decent IC reason."
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I think a good OOC reason can justify things too. After all, we all obey OOC safety restrictions. Or "don't come into area X without a ref" and so forth.
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| Its true...the 'aslongasthere'sagood IC reason' thang is always a bit tired for me. I personally think it's possible to justify doing ANYTHING IC one way or another regardless of what it is. The justification could end up more than a little spurious though. ----
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Heroic Knight
      
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| There are a couple of different ideas here. Firstly, we have playing characters with restrictions for IC reasons. I think we've agreed that these can be fun and should be treated along with any other part of the characterisation and background. Secondly, we have restrictions placed on IC actions for OOC reasons. We all live with these all the time - we don't kick each other in the nadgers to gain advantages in a fight, we don't run off site and so on. These are generally imposed for one of two reasons: safety or the limitation of our ability to phys rep things. If there are OOC restrictions imposed for other reasons, I'd say there still needs to be some IC rationale for it to avoid a jolt to suspension of disbelief. As long as the OOC limitations are known in advance, we can work on creating backgrounds and characters that wouldn't get into a situation where breaking the OOC restrictions would be an issue.
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Heroic Knight
      
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| Could be a good plan to let players know about the restrictions before the event - so if they're not happy about a particular restriction they can discuss it with the organisers in advance or simply choose not to attend.
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Wag
      
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| There needs to be reasons for it - either IC legal (you are not allowed to do this) or metaphysical (the universe does not allow it - sort of like Einsteins theory that nothing can go faster than the speed of light). These reasons also need to make sense in the context of the universe (the land of Guilder has been at war so no man may go about unarmed/the great god considers tuesday to be a holy day so no work may be done) and not just be there 'just because'. It is better, I think, to impose restrictions based on good IC cultural reasons rather than some element of 'game balance'. The players should also have the chance and ability to break the restriction IC if they want to and suffer consequences for it. And the IC restrictions should not really inhibit OOC enjoyment of the event. For example, at Waypoint the Cybel military are not allowed to drink on duty. Fairly sensible rule. The 'unofficial' OOC ruling was that the officers enforcing this (who were allowed to drink in moderation for good diplomatic reasons) would OOC overlook any drinking that was done in a non obvious way (i.e. using a tea cup to hide the alcohol) so that the players could drink even if their characters weren't. The basic thing being 'if you get caught IC you get caught IC and punished IC but we are being deliberately lax to let you get away with something...' We also made sure that there was enough time after time out for these players to relax and get over this restriction.
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