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You may be right about cyclops. What I find interesting though, is that you never actually see him die. He starts to kiss Jean and then his face starts to "wibble" like when Phoenix disintegrates someone, and then it cuts to Prof X being shocked. Now that may have been a way to conceal Phoenixs uber power until later in the film when she vapes the prof, or it may be there to leave a loophole to bring him back.
Supporting this is the fact that Phoenix isn't really evil, she only kills the Prof cos he is trying to telepathically control her, and Scott wasn't doing anything against her. She had no real motive, unless she was just getting him outta the way so she could jump Wolvers bones.
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I'm not sure that there is any mileage in trying to make sense of that film. Poor Famke just seemed to be there to provide some raison d'etre for new, shiny CGI effects.
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Saw this today.
It was OK, but not great. I'm not an X-men reader (read & enjoyed the Wolverine solo story though, the Claremont/Miller one), so I don't really know or care about comic-related continuity stuff though.
It was lacking in a plot, or indeed in much of a structure (I like my stories to have beginnings, middles, and ends). Minor characters -- i.e. everyone but Wolverine -- were ignored, sidelined, or written only in the context of their relationship with Wolverine. Most of the subtlety of Magneto's and Xavier's characters seemed to be gone from this movie.
Mythically and politically, the Jean Grey plot sucked donkey cock. Mythically, because as a powerful female avatar of anger, Phoenix should have arrived, been suitably vengeful and destructive, and then left; Kali leaping full-formed from Durga's 3rd eye, then returning once the demons were all dead, or Sekhmet gorging herself on rivers of blood and finally reverting to Bast once more in satisfied slumber. It should have been possible for her to be redeemed; for an angry woman to not inherently equal EVIL. (That's the bit where it started to get political, not just mythic.)
The subtext seemed to be that women should know their place, and that if they ever started to get too mouthy, they'd be forcibly shoved back into their place, with adamantium claws in the guts if necessary; put down like rabid dogs. Their main purpose, after all, is to fulfil the more important plot of Wolverine, the alpha male, who needed even more of an excuse to look mean and moody, apparently, so killing his Ain True Love was the best bet.
What a donkey-cock-sucking bunch of arse.
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Hmmm, if they do another one, I can see:
1)Havoc appearing
2) Apocalypse being the badguy, and him reanimating Cyclops to be one of his Four Horsemen
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| And another thing ... How on earth did they rationalise Magneto not being in prison? It's not like his mutation caused his casual murder of humans ... it was the trauma he'd suffered as a child that did that. The chess scene could just as easily have been done in a jail cell, indeed it might have been all the more powerful for that. I blame the director.
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| I wish I could put it better, or even just as well, as Ian has. I agree with him totally and unequivocably. Spider Man 3 had better be fooking amazing.
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How on earth did they rationalise Magneto not being in prison? It's not like his mutation caused his casual murder of humans ... it was the trauma he'd suffered as a child that did that. The chess scene could just as easily have been done in a jail cell, indeed it might have been all the more powerful for that. I blame the director. Given that earlier scenes show Magneto wandering through a suburban housing estate in broad daylight while wearing his trademark cape and helmet, accompanied by a bunch of goth kids and a shirtless bodybuilder (also wearing a helmet), without apparently attracting any attention from passers-by... Perhaps the film version of Magneto has an extra superpower, which gives him the ability to evade detection for as long as it is convenient to the plot? There were parts of this film which I liked- in particular the scene where Magneto rallies the mutants at the community meeting. Beast was also cool- Kelsey Grammar handles the part surprisingly well. However, most of the plot managed to be silly yet dull. Jean Grey was particularly disappointing- near the beginning, Xavier describes the Phoenix as a being composed of suppressed rage and fierce joy, which glories in destruction. If this is true, then why did she spend the vast majority of the film standing around silently while looking morose? It must be a bad sign if you release all your repressed inner demons and then discover that they're even more boring than you are.
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| It was an alright film, better than I'd thought it would be. Good news: Wuss and Wussette got killed (huzzah!) Smug git got offed (huzzah!) No more Mystique (boo!) Storm finally recognised as being the best X-person (I mean come ON! Lightning bolts versus dodgy hex vision? Who was Xavier trying to kid?) And was anyone else thinking when Jean came out of the lake and Scott said, "How?.." That the answer should have been "Red Hair dye."?
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