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Well, I hated it. Didn't feel like a comic book film (what happened to N.E.R.D?!) and certaibly not like an x-men film. My main problem being the lack of any kind of sense the plot made - did no-one else find magneto's plan to destroy the cure utterly ridiculous for a man who could have personally crushed the island from miles away or just had jean 'erase' it?
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Two good films incredibly badly squished together.
Bryan Singer alone has the X-Men magic, Brett Ratner on other hand was responsible for Rush Hour...
I shall say no more.
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| I enjoyed it, though agree that it needed more time to fill out the plot. Its sort of the reverse of the problem in the final matrix films. They suffered from not enough plot over two films, this suffers from too much in one. There is a lot of good stuff in there. And a lot of loose ends for the next one. I think there coud have been more done with Jean - she seemed underused in the final scenes after such a build up. Ok, she lets loose in the final moments, only to be put down by wolverine, but she seems to do very little else. I was expecting a final 'moral choice' scenario involving the car with people trapped in it, Magento about to throw it and Jean Grey having a final moral choice about which side to be on - the side that kills humans or the side that protects them. But it didn't happen so my 'spot plot' skill failed me there. It didn't fail me on the way in which Juggernaut got outwitted (so obvious that one, I am surprised even he didn't spot it, dumb though he was) nor in the way in which Pyro and Iceman end up facing off against each other. It was, however, nice to see some of the other characters really let loose with thier powers in the big final fight. And is it just me or was it in fact obvious that the 'cure' was not in fact a cure at all but a supression of the powers? They even say it early on - it suppresses the mutant X gene, therefore it does not remove its effect entirely. So all those hit with the drug who lost thier powers (Magneto, Rogue and Mystique) will eventually get thier powers back if they are not continually dosed up on it. Magneto's little scene at the end just goes to prove it. Despite Hank saying it was a supressor, everyone seems to think it was a permanent thing... Either a deliberate mistake on the part of the characters there or bad understanding of science (even comic science) by the writers. Either way, interesting things for the sequel. Oh, and how many of you stayed for the final scene after the credits? Should I go ahead and spoil the surprise of that scene? Hmmmmm... well, maybe I will... but in white in case you don't want to know... Xavier gets ressurected in the mind of the man he was talking about in the lesson - the one with a working body but no mind....
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Graeme (5/31/2006)
Well, I hated it. Didn't feel like a comic book film (what happened to N.E.R.D?!) and certaibly not like an x-men film. My main problem being the lack of any kind of sense the plot made - did no-one else find magneto's plan to destroy the cure utterly ridiculous for a man who could have personally crushed the island from miles away or just had jean 'erase' it?He didn't want to destroy it, he wanted to control it. Different motivations. Meant he couldn't just destroy it in the ways you describe. Am surprised he didn't use more subtle tactics, though. Of course, losing Mystique may have meant subtlty was no longer an option... 
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Not to get into an argument about a silly film, but he did instruct Juggernaut to kill the boy - the only source of the 'cure'.
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Copied from my LJ.
Overall not a bad film, but I am forced to agree with the detractors.
It could have been so much better.
It felt rushed and had too much crammed in. There were too many characters to make a good case of character dev.
The ending felt like a total cop out and seemed to me to be far to easy and far to quick. The restoration of normality was almost immediate.
The good news is that it is quite easy to pick up for a fourth of they wish to.
The cure is merely a suppressant (see quote from early movie and Lenscherr's returning poweres at the end) and thus fun can be had.
Jean remains the Phoenix and we all know the Phoenix legend both from myth and from Marvel canon, so I can see her getting back easily.
Summers was always a moron and will not be missed.
Xavier is covered by the after credits scene, so he will be back. I am told that the writers had the mindless body listed as Xavier's brother.
McTaggert is Xaviers closest friend and trusted confidante. It stands to reason that any backup plans Xavier had would lie with her.
After all in the comics he did entrust her with the Xavier Protocols, which lisyed everu X-Man's weaknesses and how they could be killed.
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It was stated that the cure suppressed the X gene...permanently. Which to me would indicate that they wouldn't need boosters to keep it suppressed, but definately leaves it open for them to discover a counter agent which reactivates the gene.
Did magneto move the chess piece without touching it? I wasn't paying attention at that second and missed it.
You never actually saw cyclops die...pretty thin, but it means they could come up with any number of reasons to bring him back.
As stated Charles is taken care of. And there is a million ways for Jean gray to come back, including actual resurrection, possession of other bodies etc.
So no unretrievable character losses there.
I liked the film, it was very shiny, but no it wasn't as good as the other 2. To be fair I think that the 2nd film is my fav, as they toned down Wolvers too much in the first one.
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| He did move the chess piece without touching it, yes. And supression is never permanent and I never heard them say permanent (though could have missed it). Bear in mind that Leech only suppressed the powers in range of him and only while they were exposed to him and the drug was derived from his serum. It is possible that the effect is in place so long as the drug is in the system and so, unless it is metabolised by the body (which most normal drugs are eventually but we can assume this is not 'normal'), it will still be in effect unless it is flushed from the system. It is also possible to explain Magentos returning power as being due to him being so powerful - the drug only supresses powers up to a certain limit so he has some residual power. But just speculating here. Paradox, how can Jean come back if dead? Unless you mean the same flange that brought her back from the dead from the second film still works, meaning that Pheonix is effectively unkillable? Interesting if that is the case...
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