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Posted Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:58 PM


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...so insults which refer to mental disabilities (or whatever we're meant to be calling them this week) are verboten, but insults which refer to the percieved worthlessness of an entire gender and generally cheapen and demean their sexuality are fine?

(personally I'm quite happy for everyone to call each other all kinds of offensive names, but I'd rather that there weren't enormous double standards - equal opportunities mockery and demeaning for all!)


I think the problem is that once cunt is off limits, what you've got left?

You. You annoying person. Your actions are really infuriating me. As a result I have a depressed opinion of your general value and worth in a non-specific way that does not make any reference to minority groups.

PC street vernacular for the win.


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Posted Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:29 PM
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I think the problem is that once cunt is off limits, what you've got left?

You. You annoying person. Your actions are really infuriating me. As a result I have a depressed opinion of your general value and worth in a non-specific way that does not make any reference to minority groups.

PC street vernacular for the win.

I beleave all have have to say on the matter is "Fuck you nerd boy, you have stupid hobbies, and spend too much time looking at crap forums in the internet"

there, i have effectivly insulted myself too, but it feels good to shout


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Posted Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:31 PM
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Cunt does not denigrate all women any more that cock or dick denigrate all men.

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Posted Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:26 PM
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I actually disagree there - I think both insults refer to harmful gender stereotypes...



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Posted Friday, February 05, 2010 9:59 AM


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@ Kamoba, thanks, that's appreciated :-)

@ Marios, I'm not really looking at getting into a debate about the finer points of insults.  I could start explaining my rationale but I don't want to get sucked into the long drawn out debate that will inevitably occur.

@ChessyPig, I'm not really sure what double standards you're talking about.  Have I used a similar insult which makes my statement hypocritical?

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Posted Friday, February 05, 2010 11:12 AM
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MattJ - I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to the part of kamoba's post where they apologised for using 'retard' as an insult and then went on to use 'twat' as an insult in the same post.

To make things clear, I'm not concerned or complaining about people using any of these things as insults, what I'm pointing out is the bizzare shell game of 'which insult is acceptable to use today and which one needs to be covered up as the group that it refers to is being defended right now' - basically all 'general' insulting terms are insulting because of their relationship to a group which has been marginalised at some point in recent history, and accepting that using one is wrong and requires an apology whilst blithely (and possibly unthinkingly) using another struck me as somewhat disingenuous.



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Posted Friday, February 05, 2010 12:07 PM


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I thought Kambooka was more removing the word because someone had expressed to be offended by it rather than as a general acceptance that the word should not be used in a derrogatory fashion.  A response I thought was quite reasonable and measured.

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