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Looks pretty awesome - basically Gladiator the series. I've noticed it also stars the guy who plays Xerxes' messenger, the one that gets booted into the pit by Leonidas in 300.
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I do talk a good fight
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Do also check out the Horrible Histories vids -- here's two of my favourites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLyW5UYPYYs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VgEpl3qd8o
http://www.hyboriantales.com
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Riftworld: Rossar Kuug ("Clearly mad, because he thinks he's a Com-Trow Skirmisher" - Aela)
Hyborian Tales: Crew, cook, dogsbody, general labourer, toilet cleaner ("Dangerously overoptimistic ref" -- Tom Nowell)
Otherwise usually crew ("Quite spry & fit, & willing to wear a big costume & run around a lot" -- various event organisers)
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Stumbled across this earlier this evening. Offered without comment...
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All opinions, comments and views expressed in Rule7 posts are mine, or have been sufficiently well plagiarised that you'll never tell the difference. They may be well-informed, educated guesses or pure speculation, but they certainly do not represent any official Odyssey or PD position. As with all PD matters, definitive positions regarding Odyssey issues are best sought direct from PD through the usual official channels. Accept no substitutes!
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Simon (10/14/2009)
samharber (10/13/2009)
So... are "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys" and "Xena: Warrior Princess" on the banned list?Absolutely not. I understand that it may not be desireable, ideologically or commercially, to 'ban' references to certain ideas or influences - I always assumed that the colonial marine that used to show up at the Gathering year in and year out was essentially down to a liberal attitude on the organisers part and I indeed once attended as Hunter S Thompson (the entire event being a product of my consumption of a shrew's pituitary gland). Will the aformentioned influences be on the 'gently encourage away from' list?
_________________________________________________________________ Yet I have not been seen frequenting the wrestling school intoxicated with success and trying to seduce young boys  ; but I took all my theatrical gear and returned straight home. I pained folk but little and caused them much amusement; my conscience rebuked me for nothing.  Hence both grown men and youths should be on my side and I likewise invite the bald to give me their votes; for, if I triumph, everyone will say, both at table and at festivals, “Carry this to the bald man, give these cakes to the bald one, do not grudge the poet whose talent shines as bright as his own bare skull the share he deserves.”
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Wen Jian (11/10/2009)
Simon (10/14/2009)
samharber (10/13/2009)
So... are "Hercules: The Legendary Journeys" and "Xena: Warrior Princess" on the banned list?
Absolutely not.
I understand that it may not be desireable, ideologically or commercially, to 'ban' references to certain ideas or influences - I always assumed that the colonial marine that used to show up at the Gathering year in and year out was essentially down to a liberal attitude on the organisers part and I indeed once attended as Hunter S Thompson (the entire event being a product of my consumption of a shrew's pituitary gland).
Will the aformentioned influences be on the 'gently encourage away from' list?
Hunter S Thompson, Colonial Marines, Hercules or Xena? If you read the cultural previews there are character ideas taken from a range of sources including TV, film and literature including Xena, Conan and so on.
I would feel it a little bit unfortunate if we had lots of people who turn up at the game who claim to ~be~ Xena, but female Amazon mercenary leaders who challenge the typical classical male-dominated myths sound great!
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The Helen of Troy one is the shizzle. It may also end the debate on character accents. I'suggest we portray all Greeks as chavs. "Listen up yeah? I want us all Greek soldiers to march on Troy, you get me? We gonna tear that city UP! Kill them all, is it? Yeah, it is."
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Wen Jian (11/10/2009)
I understand that it may not be desireable, ideologically or commercially, to 'ban' references to certain ideas or influences - I always assumed that the colonial marine that used to show up at the Gathering year in and year out was essentially down to a liberal attitude on the organisers part and I indeed once attended as Hunter S Thompson (the entire event being a product of my consumption of a shrew's pituitary gland).
Just to be clear about this, I don't have an issue with Hercules, it's the right period, it's the right genre. Ok, it's not historically precise, but Odyssey isn't a historical game, it's a game inspired by history but also the great swords and sandals epics. This is Homer meets Harryhausen but while only a fraction of the design team have actually read Homer I bet nearly all of us have seen Harryhausen.
It's easy to look down on these things, but come on, tell me honestly, if Homer had had stop-motion skeletons don't tell me they wouldn't have been in the Iliad. Course they would!
Xena is a bit less relevant, but she's close enough to pass. Like Simon says she's an Amazon warrior or the equivalent. But again before we get too punctilious, there aren't that many warrior women in the myths, but our Odyssey world has no gender bias. So Xena is fine for the Odyssey game, even if she isn't exactly a perfect rendering of the original myths.
However, please don't assume that this means that anything goes. Far from it, it's a case of "does it fit the world or doesn't it". If it fits then it's in and if it doesn't fit then you will not be allowed to play it. If you turn up at an Odyssey event in a space marine costume you will not be allowed to play that event. Frockcoats and firearms, gothic plate, light sabres, plastic bananas, there is a massive range of stuff that doesn't fit the game and which players won't be allowed to use.
I've never bought the "commercial" reason for allowing a dilution of a setting, not even for one second. As a LRPer I would miles rather attend a cool game with a clear well-defined setting then turn up at an event where anything goes. Sure that means as a company that we'll lose half a dozen ticket sales a year that we could have sold to the Legion Astartes, but I believe we'll sell more tickets as a result because people want to come to a cool swords and sandals LRP epic, and that doesn't include meeting an entire unit of Darth Mauls....
History is an important source for LRP. Along with other works of fiction.
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Simon (11/10/2009)
I would feel it a little bit unfortunate if we had lots of people who turn up at the game who claim to ~be~ Xena, but female Amazon mercenary leaders who challenge the typical classical male-dominated myths sound great!
Challenging OOC notions? I read the material as implying that the system is gender-role-blind (as is vaguely semi-standard for non-specific larps). I find it a bit frustrating attending games that are specifically gender-role-blind only to bump into people who are rebelling IC against the gender-roles that don't exist in that game (probably there is some sort of Xena format game where gender roles exist but only as paper tigers to be knocked down by plucky gels, but I would steer clear of that in a way I wouldn't a system which either had gender-roles or had *no* gender-roles).
Marios
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Matt Pennington (11/10/2009)
I've never bought the "commercial" reason for allowing a dilution of a setting, not even for one second. As a LRPer I would miles rather attend a cool game with a clear well-defined setting then turn up at an event where anything goes.
When I see films listed as reference I'm never really sure what is meant by inspiration. I'm not a reenactor, so I'm not particularly bothered about historically inaccurate kit so long as it looks roughly right and fits the character - so Xena: Warrior Princess is fine in terms of kit.
However, I would be quite put off a game if I thought the general level of interest in playing the cultural setting (playing *as if* there were one) was at the level of Xena. That is obviously something that varies from player to player and figures very highly on whether or not I'm going to get value out of a game, so it's probably the number one consideration for how much effort/resources to invest in a game - *unfortunately* there's almost no way of knowing in advance of the first game (unless you go with a very large, previously known group).
Marios
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Marios (11/10/2009)
Simon (11/10/2009)
I would feel it a little bit unfortunate if we had lots of people who turn up at the game who claim to ~be~ Xena, but female Amazon mercenary leaders who challenge the typical classical male-dominated myths sound great!
Challenging OOC notions? I read the material as implying that the system is gender-role-blind (as is vaguely semi-standard for non-specific larps). I find it a bit frustrating attending games that are specifically gender-role-blind only to bump into people who are rebelling IC against the gender-roles that don't exist in that game (probably there is some sort of Xena format game where gender roles exist but only as paper tigers to be knocked down by plucky gels, but I would steer clear of that in a way I wouldn't a system which either had gender-roles or had *no* gender-roles).
Marios
Ah yes - I can see the potential for confusion. To be absolutely clear - our game world is gender-role-blind as is vaguely semi-standard for non-specific larps There is no point rebelling IC against gender-roles that do not exist in the game. In the example I gave the challenge would be against OOC preconceptions not IC ones.
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