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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:59 PM


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Due to entertaining ramblings by other people with far too much time on their hands I thought; what the hey.

Some people think silky dresses and breastplates don't get along.  I say "oil spots" and nod knowingly, however, the obvious counter is "LARP = World o'mud" at which point I bow out completely.

Now, I have questions.  Important, burning questions like:

Has anyone _actually_ tried swimming in armour?  According to a near unimpeachable source* you tend to sink and a chainmail shirt is considerably easier to remove than say full plate, I'm thinking buckles + heavy = bad for swimming whilst trying to remove same.

Also, at exactly what point does corsetry become sufficiently full of boning to enjoy "protective gear" status?

What about "stealthing" armour?  Any hints and or tips?  I always enjoyed stealth tanks in Command and Conquer, why not LARP?

If anyone wants to make an anonymous contribution, surely I'm not the only one to have had "Excalibur" or whatever it was inflicted on them.  The scene I'm thinking of has Uther Pendragon magically disguised so he can sneak into Ygraine's bedroom.  Even in later years I can't help but think "Bloody hell, he had strong arms."

Also, any other hints and tips about armour could be cool, like for instance, I didn't know that chainmail is much more fun to wear if you have a belt that allows you to distribute weight across your hips.

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*OK, one of the character's in a David Eddings book, Ulath IIRC, discussing crossing frozen streams in troll country**.

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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:21 PM


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coffmeister (5/15/2007)
Also, at exactly what point does corsetry become sufficiently full of boning to enjoy "protective gear" status?

As it happens A Plaisance have recently started making plate that specifically shaped to fit over corsetry.

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What about "stealthing" armour?  Any hints and or tips?  I always enjoyed stealth tanks in Command and Conquer, why not LARP?

Well, obviously you need to paint it black for that proper ninja effect.

Seriously though, if you sew thin leather to the edges of chainmail it doesn't rattle nearly as much which can prove very useful for armoured stealthing.


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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:26 PM


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Seriously though, if you sew thin leather to the edges of chainmail it doesn't rattle nearly as much which can prove very useful for armoured stealthing.

This is going to sound like a well-thick question, but which edges?  The skirty bit?  Or each ring?


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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:31 PM


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I spent pretty much the entirety of Scufflebudgie (36 hours, all of which was Time In) in a mail hauberk, plate bevor, and plate leg harness, including having several naps in the full kit. It got very cold, especially with the layer of sweat that had congealed under the plate with no way to escape...

I've done trailrunning in armour as a fitness thing, not very systematically though. I use a 10kg weighted vest for running, pull-ups, sit-ups, push-ups, etc., so as to keep in trim & capable of moving in armour.

Also went to Whitby Gothic Weekend last month in plate armour, and managed to do at least a bit of dancing, but a lot more standing about socializing.


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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:36 PM


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An April fools edition of Dragon Magazine which I remember reading many years ago had a hilarious article on 'how to play a stupid fighter properly'. It included one bit on crossing streams/rivers. At every point where there is a chance your armour may get wet/have got wet you must carefully take it all off and meticulously clean and oil every bit. To cross the river you have to do this and then pack it away in an oilskin bag for the crossing then take it all out, clean and oil it again and then spend the requisite hours putting it all back on. You must insist on doing this regardless of what the other players do/say you should do. If they insist on going on ahead without you while you do this: tough. They can wait until you are finished before you are ready to rescue them from whatever monster attacks their puny and unarmoured selves further up the road

Properly fitted armour is easier to wear and better to fight/run etc in than badly fitted armour.

I did use to make the point to my tabletop players that such things as spare armour and bags of 'millions of gold coins' probably weigh more than they can easily lift... I think it is one thing LRPers learn the hard and practical way. I do know that the 'bag of medical kit, spare guns and tonnes of pieces of plot paper' I carry in Riftworld is bloody heavy and is far too important to leave just lying around for any bugger to just steal

Not sure about the corsetry thing... but I have always considered 'biker leathers' to be about the equivilent of 'light leathers' referenced in most LRP games. So, an ordinary leather jacket or trousers is too thin to be 'armour' but a really thick and padded bikers leathers jacket is designed to take a lot of punishment and so counts as armour.

If the boning in the corset is metal and fairly thick metal then it may provide a little protection. However, in most cases I doubt this is enough to stop any actual damage. bear in mind (in both the case of the corset and the leathers above) that it is not just the 'cutting' that the person needs protection from but the bruising from the kinetic hit which you even feel in plate if it is hard enough (or your padding is crap).

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Posted Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:52 PM


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Seriously though, if you sew thin leather to the edges of chainmail it doesn't rattle nearly as much which can prove very useful for armoured stealthing.

This is going to sound like a well-thick question, but which edges?  The skirty bit?  Or each ring?

The skirty bit, the ends of the sleeves and round the neck. Basically all the bits that would be called a 'hem' in a fabric garment. It basically stops the rings at the edges knocking together as they are what makes the traditonal chainmail 'sound'.


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Posted Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:21 AM


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For reasons divine* I played a character in Oblivion who refused to take his armour off unless absolutely vital.  One event featured a formal dinner, and so a friend made me a doublet designed to fit fit over my chain shirt.

I looked like I weighed about 3 stones more than I actually do, which was a disappointment, but my armour was deadly silent...excellent!

*: armour stopped you using magic, and he had Faith magic which he was scared of, so...

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Posted Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:50 PM


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Heh, I've found wearing anything over chain is an amusing exercise in complete lack of heat dissipation (hey, a layer of air trapped between two layers of cloth braced by metal rings - which quickly heat up! Awesome- if it's January...) as well as looking like you have, indeed, eaten all the pies. It is *very* quiet though...

Clothing under armour, however, tends to be extremely flattering. Armour is almost universally far chunkier than even the most voluminous ballgown, and so tends to make one look far slimmer in comparison even if the armour itself has the opposite effect. I'm looking forward to more chunky armour + pretty dress combinations next Maelstrom.

Wearing thick leather plate stuff over a layer of chain, with another layer of leather over that on the shoulders, turns one into a huge chunky behemoth of approximately double normal girth and with almost space-marine scale shoulders (amusing, immensely unflattering, but useful in certain circumstances!). Contrast that with a pretty skirt underneath and a soft voice, with gentle, almost motherly mannerisms and speech patterns and I think it's quite effective at being an unsettling combination of hard chunky masculinity and soft curvy femininity.

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